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  1. #13811
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    Ah...thanks for the help on the false god. I know everything else...but when the false (red-eyed) god tells me to 'flee and don't stop', I just keep DPS'ing him. Didn't realize I had to stop all actions. That's the only thing I kept getting hit by. Thanks.
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  2. #13812
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    Sieben79's Avatar
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    Shalya Arlemoire
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    Phoenix
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by KaivaC View Post
    Ah...thanks for the help on the false god. I know everything else...but when the false (red-eyed) god tells me to 'flee and don't stop', I just keep DPS'ing him. Didn't realize I had to stop all actions. That's the only thing I kept getting hit by. Thanks.
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    Blue Mask (true)
    Play Symbol (or scatter): Tank, melee or bard, do attacks til countdown peeps, then move between two, one and zero. If caster you can do everything with a castbar, if using skills like instant casts (triple, dualcast) see melee.
    Eye: Turn away at countdown peeps between two, one and zero. Autoattacks won't trigger the penalty.

    Red Mask (false) - Play: see turn away
    Eye: see play

    I only get a penatly, if I don't pay attention wich mask was shown before.
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    Last edited by Sieben79; 01-17-2018 at 09:04 AM.

  3. #13813
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    Awful's Avatar
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    Awful Name
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    Faerie
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 100
    So I resubbed to FFXIV this last week was having a GREAT start to the week, got back into raiding, doing dailies, leveling stuff all that, weekly reset today and I que into expert roulette I get...Ala Mhigo as per usual whatever let's go. I get in with a new group (3rd new group in the last couple of days game loves to troll me), we say hello and get to pulling except the tank isn't pulling anything just standing around spamming Total Eclipse missing everything and not holding hate ugh..Great!

    I kindly say "Watch your threat! Flash! Halone/Balone!", keeps hitting Total Eclipse not saying a word, the SAM and BLM are fighting each other for threat while i'm healing them and DPSing they both say this is their friend and he's new, YOU DON"T SAY. I tell em can you at least teach him the basics of tanking such as using Flash and Circle of Scorn, oh man when I said that it opened a huge can of worms the BLM instantly says "if you don't like it then get out of the group please". Excuse me? No no no, this isn't how it works we're a TEAM in this dungeon and we're going to get through this i'm not eating a penalty you can kick me because this tank needs to learn how to tank, the tank does a /sit and starts typing that he's never had a complaint before.

    Really...I find that impossible you've been using TOTAL ECLIPSE did the mobs just take 4 mins to die as they got tickled? Like really how is this possible, anyways the tank in turn on the first boss just stays in Shield Oath spamming 1-2-3 over and over and over eating every single AoE marker and everything. The BLM responds with "See he can tank ! Now will you shut up?" I said good for him i'm glad he figured that out 10 minutes into a dungeon while getting hit by every AoE and not making any effort to move or do anything.

    The arguing continues but I opened every chest so I wouldn't get vote kicked (teehee) and just kept doing my job of tanking DPSing and healing as a WHM, truly ahead of our times here I even face tanked the adds with the bugs and the giant cannon by kiting and the tank was screaming at me and /sitting not keeping hate or doing anything.

    I don't get how this person has a 70 warrior, paladin, smn/sch, and a 67 monk but yet doesn't know or wants to tank if you didn't wanna tank then play something else because I tanked most of the dungeon as a healer while DPSing and trying to make the run go by faster, I was being bashed left and right by everyone because they wouldn't step up to do their jobs. I left with 0 comms and a "wish we could kick you" remark. Good times!
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  4. #13814
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    RamothElggur's Avatar
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    Jun 2015
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Character
    Ramoth Elggur
    World
    Mateus
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 80
    I had some special individuals who represented the "bad side of the community" unfortuantely quite too well:

    Friend of mine hopped into O1 Savage as SCH, i joined out of boredom the same group as DRK (havent touched the jobs as much ever since SB hit but well, wanted to see if i can still play the job)
    Just so u know, my Bud was fairly new to healing but he actually managed quite well in previous attempts (were people would not die left and right :P)

    Anyways, the Grp got lead by a SAM and his buddy, a WHM, was also part of this Group. Pull was as normal, aside from the NIn in the party beeing a bit derping here and there and teh Tank sticking to glue to that "A" marker

    Then the actual s**t show started. Aside from people dying left or right, my friend was healing his arse off, the WHM not supporting him in any way possible, not even after Alte Roite's Charybdis and AoE casts etc., so ofc we lose people here and there, i dropped at some point to during to the lack of healing, even had to use Living dead on a Tankbuster because i was so low life that a CD or two alone wouldn't have been enough to keep me alive. Needles to say, Walking dead killed me ofc >.>. Friend was busy healing as good as he could but the WHM didn't bother at all helping out with the low life people and the people who dropped dead on the floor after. The SAM apparently didn't know where his position was for some pushback actions etc., nearly killing or killing people with overlapping the lightning strikes.

    We made it through thankfully but as soon as we left the Instance, my Friend left the Party (understandable at this point imo), well.. so i thought.. he complained about the SAM and the WHM for beeing incompetent to do Mechanics right aswell as the WHM literally ignoring the fact that he probably forgot that he has to throw some heals here and there (I am not a main healer but most of the mechanis u can heal through with Off GCD's just fine,especially in o1 Savage imo).

    I asked if he left the Group and guess what? he did not leave it, the SAM just simply kicked him out, probably because his WHM buddy complaining for whatever reaseon (WHM screwed up for ignoring the fact that he is a WHM though)

    So i asked this to the Party:
    "Did the SCH left or did he got kicked out ?"

    SAM and WHM:
    "He left"

    (Yeah he sure did dude he just told me a minute Ago that u guys kicked him out because you guys are "special snowflakes")

    Me:
    " Sry but i know the SCH u just kickd out of the party, Be at least honest m8"

    I think i dont have to say that they removed me from the party aswell, just confirming the fact that they got busted lying.

    They reopend the party, but they were all alone so either they disbanded or the other people just left (i hope it was the second though but i am just guessing)

    Welp, butthurt people that is all i can say... this a running theme apparently nowadays, people beeing in denial, and simply showing disgusting personalities, especially if u bust them when they lie to you.

    My respond tbh was to warn people on my Friend list and the LS about those two people, to save them from this madness, probbaly not the best solution but some people have to hit the ground very hard to realize what they do sometimes. They might realize it if people start to avoid them :/ (Note: this was not the only incident, after "warning LS people and friends, some mentioned their names and confirmed their ugly behaviour of putting the blame on others)
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    Last edited by RamothElggur; 01-17-2018 at 10:09 AM.

  5. #13815
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    VanilleFang's Avatar
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    Estellise Valesti
    World
    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Awful View Post
    he's new[...]has a 70 warrior, paladin, smn/sch, and a 67 monk
    Does not compute.
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  6. #13816
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    killstein's Avatar
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    Ishgard
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    Character
    Ark Vuilocand
    World
    Famfrit
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 80
    today has been a day with special groups/individuals... queue in trials on my war and it's nidhogg (my personal fav). there's a bonus and immediately you see about half the party are either sprouts or returning players. my co-tank falls into the latter and he's in shield oath so i go deliverance and wait... then he goes to sword oath. okay cool, he wants me to tank! i pull, everything is going okay except... the pld is stacking with me and eating cleaves out the wazoo AND is back in shield oath. weird... progressing into the fight before the adds, people are dying but we all manage to get up in time for the adds. i get one, the pld doesn't get the other so i grab both, whatever, we move on and phase 2 is where i internally cry.

    people are stacking on me (pld included) eating cleaves and dying and other people are dying to unknown things. it's a miracle we get to p3 and i should have known this was coming but nobody stacked for akh morn or just ran away with the marker. needless to say we wiped and i pull up my leadership pants on and start taking charge of this fight. it doesnt go any better tbh bc people are still stacking on me, the pld isnt listening when i ask him to stay in sword oath, people cant dodge anything, its horrible... i'm assuming my advice eventually stuck bc after we wipe a second time, we clear and i walk away with 0 comms whoo.

    --

    i decide to join a pf for leveling in doma on ninja, including another dps and an ast. we zone in, i check the tank's gear and they have a lvl60 weap and all 60 right side. needless to say we didn't even get to the colossus bc they melted, leading us to wipe and this happened once more before i suggest they pull smaller due to their gear. they fake dc (lol) and our party of three moves along, waiting for them to come back. personally, i wish we didn't kick them bc i wanted them to eat the penalty rather than flaking but whatever. :v
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  7. #13817
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    Meanken's Avatar
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    Raina Tanlasel
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    Mateus
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 70
    So I signed on for Trial Roulette last night as an RDM, and I spawn in to this in Garuda HM.

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  8. #13818
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    Quote Originally Posted by Awful View Post
    terrible pld
    Yeah...I don't get how the PLD could miss TE every time...that must've been a bad tank. That being said, I haven't been running into any issues with TE spam, even in Sword Oath. As long as you establish hate with a flash, bust out 2 or 3 (or 4, if you're feeling risky) TEs, fire off another flash, then go back to TE, you really shouldn't be losing aggro to anyone. At least, from my experience, I haven't. For big pulls, I don't really even go into my single target combos until we get down to one or two enemies in a mob.
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  9. #13819
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    FelixDaCat's Avatar
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    Hereford U.K
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    Felix Dacat
    World
    Phoenix
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 90
    I wanted to share what happened in a party earlier this morning in Brayflox's Longstop Hard.

    From the start, I told the group that I was new to RDM and that I had only done the dungeon on normal once back in July. Everything goes smoothly until the final boss. After we wipe the first time, the tank politely explained to me and the other DPS who was unclear with the dungeon, what we were doing wrong and how we could improve.

    We wipe about 8 times on the final boss. I thanked the tank and healer for not quitting and they both told me "It's more fun teaching someone who listens and actually downing the boss". Not once did they lose their cool with me and the other DPS and laughed when they screwed up after doing what they explained we were doing wrong.

    Really gave me hope that there are still chilled people playing MMO's
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  10. #13820
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    Meanken's Avatar
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    Raina Tanlasel
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    Mateus
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 70
    I had a weird event just now that left me confused. Sohm Al Normal, I zone in and tank says he's new, has a sprout. Fair enough, I explain the bosses as we go, he does well enough with no major issues. At one point between the second and third boss I'm examining people and notice an oddity. This tank has on Shire gear. That is, level 60 gear. Stuff you can't get without getting to a location that requires you clear said dungeon.

    I attempted to ask him about this at the end, but did not catch him before he left. The other person left, a healer, commented that she noticed the exact same thing and was also confused.

    Anyone have any possible explanation for this?
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