Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent.

[Iscah]

I kinda agree with the last comment in that pic, you shouldn't have to watch YouTube to be able to play a game. That's bad game design imo.

I agree. I feel like the information on how to handle game mechanics should be taught by the game itself - particularly the meaning of floating markers like the 'green rock' and different coloured arrows. Perhaps introduce them in a solo instance where an NPC can prompt you about what to do when you see them, and then you can go into the dungeon understanding what to look for and how to react. The marker alone tells you nothing except that *something* is going to happen in relation to it, but not how to handle it, and the fights are generally too fast-moving to really understand what just happened.

(Once again: advanced Hall of the Novice really does need to be a thing....)

[duvvvv]

I kinda agree with the last comment in that pic, you shouldn't have to watch YouTube to be able to play a game. That's bad game design imo. I think Dark Souls --snip---

I agree that FFXIV players don't need to watch YouTube in order to clear any content, but saying it's bad design because Dark Souls...no. you can beat Dark Souls playing on your own, this is an MMO--group synergy matters. the issue has always been players who are rude with newbies, who refuse to help, or are just jerks. all MMOs have their share of these types. you can always find a learning group and clear any duty without a guide, but the DF is not the best place to look for one.
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yesterday/last night was the first time I had to kick a tank in a party. DR 50/60, got Amdapor Keep with 3 sprouts, I was BLM. I don't tank so when PLD told us to let him know if he's doing anything wrong I didn't say a thing, and failed to notice he wasn't using flash, as there were moments when he couldn't maintain enmity. TBH, I didn't mind that the tanking was far from perfect, our SCH was doing great, the run was smooth enough, but PLD got offended when SAM asked him a few times why he's not using "Blinde", then "Are you a new tank". PLD stopped midway to 2nd boss and explained that the gear discrepancy is the issue, that there's nothing he could do, and he's been tanking for 15 years (!) then probably walked away iRL because he didn't respond for at least 5 minutes when we asked if we could move forward. kicked him for AFK

[Ametrine]

Yeah, but, aside from the quirk with needing to collect Vril and manually flicking it on, her attacks are easy to read. The vril thing causes more deaths in the fight than anything else, but she so heavily telegraphs them that she's really not a terrible fight to learn unless you have 0 situational awareness, or like, the tank has her in the middle or something. (which is an issue with the AOEs, admittedly)


Also, asking people to bring up YouTube MIDFIGHT is a taller order than you realize for console players. I'd have to grab another device, or close FFXIV than hobble around the app on PS4.

[Avatre]

I know this isn't DF, but what is with Zurvan EX farm parties? Every single one I've been in the last two weeks has ended up wiping 2-3 times on the FIRST run of the party. I can understand someone who needs a clear still dying a few times, but when it's people who say they have multiple kills, I just can't stick around in those after the single clear. I just want my last birb! -.-

[Mesarthim]

I know this isn't DF, but what is with Zurvan EX farm parties? Every single one I've been in the last two weeks has ended up wiping 2-3 times on the FIRST run of the party. I can understand someone who needs a clear still dying a few times, but when it's people who say they have multiple kills, I just can't stick around in those after the single clear. I just want my last birb! -.-

Because people are spoiled by unsyncs. Wipes were common more than I want back when zurvan was current content and it's only made worse by people thinking they can skip every mechanic. Southern cross stacking? Nah. Broken seal? What's coordination (assuming an unsync run gets to one)?

I make sure to avoid doing this for Wt like the plague.

[Iscah]

Massive thanks to the party that had to work with my still-struggling astrologian in Sohm Al the other night (which I've only done as white mage or DPS). Three wipes to Tioman, lots of advice and patience given, finally scraped through. I still really need to grasp astrologian's unique skills instead of just thinking of it as white mage plus cards.

(I then went into leveling roulette again as tank, got Sohm Al again with an astrologian healer, and the whole thing went super smoothly. Clearly it's not just that the level is difficult, and I still have a long way to go....)

[Nestama]

Byakko EX today decided he wanted to try and cause a wipe via bugs. Second tiger spawns and everything is going normally, but then it decides to use its second Hyper Beam while Byakko-man was casting his donut AoE (they went off at the same time, so no safe spots unless you're with the tiger). SCH, SMN, RDM (me) and NIN were the only casualties, with the DRG, two tanks and WHM as the only survivors.

Normally we'd go "wipe it," but instead we pushed on, recovered and eventually got the win (before enrage even started). The DRG joked about 'what's this about DRG's always dying?' and then got himself killed by Sweep the Leg. "Talk [bleep], get hit" as the saying goes.

[killstein]

coming here to cry about how nobody can competently stay alive in o5s... of all things. i'm clear ready, i've BEEN clear ready and i'm confident in my ability to perform well. i've seen 4% enrage many times but it's just super frustrating to always have a couple of people not perform well enough to where we can't even survive past the ghosts in the cars.

altho i will say what's more frustrating is joining clear parties and having people leave/party disband after 2 wipes. i get it-- i'm frustrated and mad too, but leaving after a wipe isn't helping anyone, especially those who want a clear. one of those times i wish i had a static or a dedicated group of friends to run this kind of stuff with... ;_;

[Ursa_Vonfiebryd]

So I've done EX many many times now, and I'm seeing a pattern. Why does EVERYONE flub the Sophia mechanic in Fractal Hard? I actually kind of yelled at someone last night because I died after getting hit by Citadel Buster because I was chasing after someone with rings while they RAN AWAY FROM ME (I was healing). I apologized because I really hate that sort of thing and I understand that not everyone has done Warring Triad, but it's literally every. Single. Time. *screams*

[Texa]

Why does EVERYONE flub the Sophia mechanic in Fractal Hard?

People do the exact same thing in Sophia normal too, which I used to run a lot just because I felt like it. The mechanic IS pretty confusing to see just out of the blue they probably thing it's like a burst aoe or something that they need to be by themselves for. Your options there are to let them eat it, make a macro to explain it while its happening, explain it during the pull before the boss, or rescue someone into yours if you're healing.