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  1. #13131
    Player
    SenorPatty's Avatar
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    Vice Shark
    World
    Coeurl
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by HaoNam View Post
    I was in leveling roulette: Shisui.

    War decided to pull multiple groups with deliverance stance. Of course, he died and whole group wiped. He then switched to Defiance and do single group pull which yielded a better result. After the first boss, he tried to pull multiple groups with deliverance again and we all died.

    I said to him, can you please stay on defiance if you are planning to do bigger pull? I was playing as a dps. He then replied I can out dps you with deliverance while pulling.

    I just don't bother to help anymore. If you cannot protect the group then what's the point of being a tank.
    The tanks in SB dgns are hella weird like this. They think Convalescene is the only buff they need for mass pulls, they lack complete self-awareness concerning their gear (raise your hand if you had to heal a tank with overall 260 gear or lower in Doma) and when the mass pull fails, they slow it down but only because its the healer's fault, according to them.

    I'm glad my brain runs on auto-pilot these days cuz if I had to care every single time I encountered such tanks, my sanity would pay the price.
    (3)
    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    Healing DRK is literally... the same since ShB. The reason why people think it's a meme to heal nowadays because DRK receives very little to no buff to their sustainability vs 3 other tanks getting something useful. If you're capable of healing DRK back in ShB (or any tanks), then you'll heal EW DRK just fine.

  2. #13132
    Player MoroMurasaki's Avatar
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    Moro Murasaki
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    Zalera
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by HyoMinPark View Post
    I’m done trying to farm ShinEx. Why are these PFs so bad. >.>
    Been trying to farm it all day so I can at least get totems to buy the weapons for AST/SCH (barely can care about the mount right now), and can’t even get a group to get past first phase.

    I’m just done. Not worth the damn headache anymore.
    I've cleared a few times but I'm afraid that I don't have the fight down enough to join a farm for it quite yet so I join practice parties in hopes of helping someone and picking up a totem....

    ... sounds like I should just join farms because at least I can reliably get to phase three.
    (0)

  3. #13133
    Player Mhaeric's Avatar
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    Vancouver, BC
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    Character
    Mhaeric Llystrom
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 97
    Had a vault run last week with what looked to be a new player that had used a leveling potion. They were a 60BLM and only had all 3 HW jobs unlocked with exactly 0xp for each and their gear was full 60 stuff which I think you get from the potion or maybe a 60 quest. This isn't a problem for me usually, and I expected them to do less damage due to being new... But wow. Let's just say their dps was in the low double digits even though they were casting spells. As in almost single digit low. I was floored. We couldn't even finish the second boss because we just ran out of room with all the aoe balls everywhere. Tried twice before I opted to leave eat the penalty. I think they must have had all broken gear or something because they were casting fire spells, albeit with a delay between each, so I dont know how else their output could be that low.
    (4)

  4. #13134
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    Rilifane's Avatar
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    Esther Harper
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    Zodiark
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Mhaeric View Post
    Had a vault run last week with what looked to be a new player that had used a leveling potion. They were a 60BLM and only had all 3 HW jobs unlocked with exactly 0xp for each and their gear was full 60 stuff which I think you get from the potion or maybe a 60 quest. This isn't a problem for me usually, and I expected them to do less damage due to being new... But wow. Let's just say their dps was in the low double digits even though they were casting spells. As in almost single digit low. I was floored. We couldn't even finish the second boss because we just ran out of room with all the aoe balls everywhere. Tried twice before I opted to leave eat the penalty. I think they must have had all broken gear or something because they were casting fire spells, albeit with a delay between each, so I dont know how else their output could be that low.
    Wow.
    Last time I've seen a party almost run out of room there was when HW was just released and everyone was freshly 57 with barely appropriate gear.Oh the fun times at the last boss. Breaking tether while dancing around puddles while avoiding the malicious pony march of doom while somehow keeping everyone alive while trying and failing to remind everyone via chat they should do the same - minus the keeping everyone alive part.I honstely enjoyed the last boss but I've seen more than one wipe back in the day.
    And a few on the 2nd boss aswell though that was not because we ran out of room but usually because of "let me just eat a few debuffs so he can properly wipe the floor with me"-tanks. Who were usually quick to complain why I don't Esuna them. Weeell....
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  5. #13135
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    Faee's Avatar
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    Character
    Fae Lhevya
    World
    Tonberry
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by SenorPatty View Post
    (raise your hand if you had to heal a tank with overall 260 gear or lower in Doma)
    Literally me when I ran Doma for the first time 2 days ago, the tank was new too so I kinda understand, but when the highest piece of equipment he had was an i255 ring, let's just say I was in full panic mode for a lot of that dungeon... Also, he said he didn't know any of the mechanics for Hypertuned Grynewaht (as we were entering the room) but fortunately we were able to simply sum it up as "DODGE AOE".

    Made it through just fine though, so no problems there!
    (1)

  6. #13136
    Player MoroMurasaki's Avatar
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    Moro Murasaki
    World
    Zalera
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 80
    Helped an FC member queue into Doma Castle who is leveling DRG - it's been a while since I dungeon healed anything outside of expert since all my healers have been 70 for a while but I didn't think that would be an issue.

    I got the squishiest tank ever.


    He does the first double pull and pops Hallowed so I'm just Holying away having a great time when Hallowed ends I toss a regen on him and oh sweet jesus no his health is plummeting.

    With the way it's falling and how low it is already I don't think anything but Benediction could save him and even though I know there is a delay I tried. It gets off just as his HP dips into freaking double digits. I pride myself on being able to let a tank drop low safely but there was no skill involved here, only panic and luck.

    The rest of the dungeon goes very similar. I haven't played a ton of PLD and my FC member who has is busy complaining in FC chat about the lack of DPS from the SMN... which frankly I can't blame him for since I'm beating the SMN by a bit even while healing a wet paper bag masquerading as a tank. I can say it seemed like he kind of rotated CDs but the gaps between them felt too large.

    He did single pulls in Shield Oath from then on. I can't fault him there, I would likely be cautious as well when a healer let me drop that low, but then he also seriously slowed down his AoE enmity generation soooo...

    Yup, you guessed it, WHM tank best tank. It started as him just losing one enemy to me which, frankly, is one too many but I can manage. It turned into him losing both packs to me after the second boss. On the second pack I had to burn Tetra, Bene and Swiftcast to keep myself alive.

    I don't know if he was bitter after the first pull of the dungeon (though if thats the case... really? He didnt die, we didn't wipe) or just as bad at enmity generation as he was at mitigation/gearing himself properly but whatever the cause of our troubles was I wish I recorded it now to go back and watch.
    (7)

  7. #13137
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    Lalafallen's Avatar
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    Character
    Mikki Evermore
    World
    Odin
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 32
    I just want to throw out a huge sorry for the group from... I believe it was Doma Castle, who had to wait for five minutes to kick me.
    Not because I played bad, but because I couldn't play at all. After loading in the dungeon my controller settings were completely messed up. I told them I'd leave since I wasn't even able to use my basic attack, but even the start-button to open up the menue didn't work. I kinda paniced and more or less faked a d/c. Haven't played since yesterday, but I'm hoping that the settings are okay again and that the Windows-pop-up caused all this.

    So, sorry again that you had to wait for five minutes, I really didn't know what to do.
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  8. #13138
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    Eugene_Erde's Avatar
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    Eugene Erde
    World
    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 61
    Ran Gubal for the first time yesterday with FC party + 1 really helpful AST from DF. It was a fun run! I've just gotten Deathflare right before going into Gubal so I was pretty much learning to use it on the go and kinda messed it up a couple of times. I knew I messed up on the 2nd boss but even so, the AST was kind and helpful, offered tips for me whenever I messed up. The funniest point was when AST went literally giddy when I mana-shifted them (LOL it was cute okay). I didn't get to say thank you properly when we cleared so if you're reading it here, thank you so much.
    p/s: Thanks for comm. I gave you mine too and hope you got all 3.
    (1)

  9. #13139
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    HakaseNyan's Avatar
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    Character
    Suzu Hakase
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 90

    Who buys a jump potion just to faceroll?

    Leveling roulette with my friend; she's tanking, I'm healing. We get Qarn (normal) with a level sync NIN & SMN. After witnessing some erratic behavior from the NIN (running circles around adds using random skills), I chose to inspect them both. All signs of new players that bought jump potions.

    First boss: Both refused to pay attention to doom and stand on the pads. After two wipes, and some explaining, I decided to let them stay dead and use my MP to fight the boss and wasps.

    Second boss: Both refused to attack golem's soulstone. We marked the soulstone, tried explaining it in chat, and tried using auto-translate, but there was no change.

    At this point, my friend and I were rather agitated. She thought maybe they were bots, so we tried to get their attention with "Hello?" and such. After no response, I put it plainly: "Respond or you'll be treated as bots."

    "we're trying to fight not read chat"
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  10. #13140
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    Bourne_Endeavor's Avatar
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    Cassandra Solidor
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by MoroMurasaki View Post
    I've cleared a few times but I'm afraid that I don't have the fight down enough to join a farm for it quite yet so I join practice parties in hopes of helping someone and picking up a totem....

    ... sounds like I should just join farms because at least I can reliably get to phase three.
    The amount of supposed clear or "add/third phase" parties I have been in that can't make it to Diamond Dust are staggering. Counting from the time of this post until just last night, I've been in 6-7 of them and the furthest I've seen is second phase adds—where we all subsequently die. People are so damn awful at even basic mechanics. ;-;
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