Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent.

[LyraMaru]

Just a short PF story or maybe a shout out to those who join a farm party on pf and leave after 1 or 2 quick kills. You know, it's a farm party and we have to find a replacement for you. So if you don't want to stick with us for several runs, please just don't come to our group. It annoys me soooooo much. Yeah and after finding a replacement, another member leaves. I mean... really? >:-(

[Mysterysword]

To all newbies:

If you are new to a dungeon, and refuse to say so, you have absolutely no right to be pissed when people who expect you to be able to perform the basic mechanics of the dungeon get annoyed when you can't. It is nobody's responsibility to read your mind and assume you know nothing about the mechanics when the vast majority of dungeons and trials in this game have guides out there on the internet.

If you are new and need mechanics explained, open your bloody mouth and say so. If you stay silent, you have nobody but yourself to blame for your own incompetence.

[Mesarthim]

About 2 nights ago I did a leveling roulette with a healer in need bonus so I went in. Got Haukke Manor which is an easy dungeon, if I'm patient enough to tolerate the incredibly inefficient party I had. I'll count the things I raised my eyebrow at:

1. Synced down I had 1041 hp on AST. Tank had 1043? (Think he was 29). That's kind of low.
2. Checked tank gear. Some level 17 gear, isn't even wearing shoes at all. Super squishy. Couldn't risk attacking as 2 GCD is enough time for him to die as he also tried pulling big.
3. THM in the group did not cast fire 1, ever. If he did I didn't notice as his mp is always full.
4. Said THM spammed break, drain, and blizzard. Maybe an occasional thunder or rarely fire II (not spammed).
5. Monk, you did good all things considered.

Combining the above I made an inquiry after the first boss about this. Dead silence. After we turned around and dropped down the stairs to kill the mob there, still dead silence. I just left. I don't expect much from duty finder but I at least expect you to be fully geared (shoes are nice) and isnt too far below the level of the dungeon, that and at least have the basic idea of how to play the class (THM). If you have troubles with the class I can help with that. Being absolutely silent while playing the class about as wrongly as you can even after my question does not help (I don't bite).

I don't expect perfection but at least the basic sense of cooperation would be nice.

[Aosha]

I found the legendary "way too undergeared" player.

Yes, that was taken in the Sirensong Sea. Sure, the rest of the gear was i260, but he was missing hundreds of points of mind with that setup, barely able to keep the tank up through single pulls and running flat on MP every time.
Not a new player either, had multiple classes at 70.

[Lilseph]

I'm impressed with people lately... in a bad way.

Story #1: I was leveling SAM and queued up for Sirensong Sea. Got paired with a PLD that, after the ship arrived to the island and pulling the first pack, he said as a form of disclaimer "I'll not do big pulls, I'm undergeared". I check his gear, and he was about ilvl260, 33k. So, WHATEVER MAN! It's gonna be one of these boring ass runs then. The run went extremely slow, he wasn't even gathering the mobs after the second boss. By the time we reach the final boss, the nice fella drops Shield Oath and swaps to Sword Oath. Needless to say, I got aggro because SAM, so I die. The healer, trying to raise me, dies because he didn't dodge anything and didn't heal the magical AoE casted by the boss. This happened when the boss was about to die. The PLD, which apparently spammed Clemency to keep himself alive, finishes the encounter. So, as a form a complaint and before leaving, I told the tank that if he was going to avoid big pulls because he was undergeared, he should at least use Shield Oath for these situations.

Story #2: I queue up again. Same dungeon. I get paired up with a SMN, which was standing still 80% of the time. So I tell him if he would mind to help us out with his DPS. He replies "I'm fixing my hotbars". Throughout all the run. The tank remains silent. The healer states how he was outdpsing him, as he was doing roughly 1k DPS on trash pulls and 500 DPS on boss fights. I was tempted to kick him, but decided to bite the bullet and press on. I spam emotes at him "/throw" "/annoy", to let him know I'm watching his bs. The healer at some point asked him "Did you buy a leveling pot or something?" He didn't say anything. The whole run was slow af. Painful. Extremely.

[Frizze]

Couple hours ago. Trials roulette. I like to run trials because its a decently deep pool of fights to pull from, its usually a quick in and out, and it helps me keep mechanics from dozens of fights somewhere in my mind. Tonight drops in to Susano storymode. Ive never been in a group that couldnt get it down in 1-3 tries, so im not too worried. New player message, but only a couple group members are 53. Im not too worried. Ask if anyone needs to know mechs, no one responds - though the tank did pull a little quickly, so was someone typing? The world will never know. First thing i notice is that the 2nd healer(whm? sch? i forget) wasnt hanging out near the group. They get the first knockback/stack, and sure enough they dont. Boom, dead. Samurai immediately explains that they need to sprint back after that knockback and stack with the rest of us for that. Anytime they arent targetted with it, they fail to get between the waves, and eat the hit/launch. And maybe they have bad lag on their end? Because the raisen kakyo whirlpools are killing them almost every time too.

So that leaves the AST to basically solo-heal the entire fight. However, the AST is stubborn and wont let them stay dead. That healer must have been ressed close to 3 dozen times. However, since they arent able to help(and seem to die as quickly as they get picked back up) the DPS arent getting many resses(AST is mostly only doing them when swift is up and goes for the healer first each time). The dead-heal had a DRG friend along who spent long stretches of the fight laying down and "living" up to the DRG stereotypes. Tanks are doing more or less fine(i didnt notice anything bad), so the fight is an overworked AST, my BLM feeding them mana every time shift is up and doing my best to burn the boss down, and a pair of samurai doing their best(one of them even does the 3 bar limit with like 30% thinking we have the fight won). First pull we go to roughly 15%, but the healer gets trapped in the rock and though we free him the string of unkehi's that follow are too much for him to heal us through. Second pull is similar, and we fail at a similar place. By now the DRG is complaining he's been dead more then alive(implying that he should be ressed over his healer friend? possibly). We agree to hold LB for a potential healer miracle, and half the group makes it clear that this is the last pull before they leave. The start of the fight is smoother(aside from the 2nd healer dying all over the place), we get to about the same point. The unkehi string kills me for the 3rd time(in 3 pulls ive avoided every avoidable hit except for 1 and put no extra deaths on the healer to res). Both Samurai are down too. Theres a second where it looks like the healer wont use the limit(might not get the chance), but he gets it off, we get back up, and we burn off whats left of the boss(though not before that healer can die again). We compliment the AST on a job well done. The "offending parties" leave soon after. And then me and the 2 SAM spend the next several minutes consoling each other until the instance kicks us out.

So to that group - tanks you did fine. You didnt rage out at the people derping it up, you didnt seem to add to the healers stress. Good job. Samurai friends, you already know. We talked. The AST i cant name - you worked your ass off and i hope you got every Comm. I know you got mine. Too bad you had no help. To the DRG and other healer... theres no shame in admitting you need to be told mechanics. We all had to learn these fights at some time. And healer especially, you have the tools to prevent your own deaths most of the time. Use them.

[silverlunarfox]

I found the legendary "way too undergeared" player.

Yes, that was taken in the Sirensong Sea. Sure, the rest of the gear was i260, but he was missing hundreds of points of mind with that setup, barely able to keep the tank up through single pulls and running flat on MP every time.
Not a new player either, had multiple classes at 70.

Looks like a prime example of oh shit i got rid of some of my gear on accident. Hits best equipment button....welp, this will have to do! XP

[Mysterysword]

I found the legendary "way too undergeared" player.

What's even worse is when that kind of player gets a direct gear upgrade in the dungeon and refuses to put it on. I don't get those people.

[Joryan]

What's even worse is when that kind of player gets a direct gear upgrade in the dungeon and refuses to put it on. I don't get those people.

You expect me to replace my meticulously dyed and glamoured Sastasha piece - which makes me look like a BOSS - with this awfully looking ilvl300 stuff? Come on man, let's be serious here.

[ilea]

Story from last night: Mentor roulette at, like, 2 AM, so of course it's an in-progress Thornmarch EX. Other healer left after a decent chunk of time had gone down, so I readied myself for the worst.

... except everything went fine. We wiped two times, but the third run was the winner. PLD MT called out swaps, refreshed people on mechanics on every wipe, and fielded questions from the newbies. There were a couple problems, like when I needed to remind the DRG that his DoT is still a DoT... but the run could've been much, much worse.

Kudos to the PLD mentor who led all the new guys to their clear. The run was a pleasant surprise.