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  1. #12191
    Player
    VitalSuit's Avatar
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    Aug 2014
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    Ul'Dah
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    402
    Character
    Tarra Netsky
    World
    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 80
    Queue with my healer friend and get Ex Roulette, get Ala Mhigo (as a BLM, fuck this dungeon my SPS goes from 1864 to 1368 which is an extra 0.11 seconds or so on my cast times). We exchange hellos, start the run, tanks pulls the first set of trash, stops on the first set of trash. Ok small pulls, whatever. I root myself down, start casting bliz, 3, thunder 3, the moment I get into fire 3 and start casting Fire IV, the tank starts to move to the next pack. Ok maybe he realized we have a BLM, BRD, and WHM in the party so we can aoe things down easily. So he grabs the next 2 adds I plant myself down again begin casting, 1 Fire IV, 2 Fire IVs AND the tank moves on AGAIN to the next set of trash. What the hell tank, if you want to do big pulls just PULL THEM ALL, STOP PLAYING RED LIGHT GREEN LIGHT.

    Oh also another one, queue with my healer friend and get 50/60 roulette, get Tam-Tara (hard). Once again exchange pleasantries and then start. Tank says he's new to the dungeon, no problem we'll explain mechanics when we get there. First pull... Tank runs in, flashes twice (in shield oath mind you so this should be my queue to start aoeing down the trash), BOY WAS I WRONG. Blizzard 3, 75% of the enmity bar generated. ???? Fire 3, ripped aggro. WHAT. He flashed twice AND in Shield Oath, I shouldn't even be ripping aggro before my hard hitting spells haven't even come out. Look at the tank's gear, i110 pvp gear left side, some i110 pvp gear right side (like 2 pieces) i38 CASTING AND iWHATEVER CRAFTING ACCESSORIES. Oh lord why. DRG in the party obviously his friend geared in the same exact way.

    I was literally a BLM tank for the entire dungeon. From this day onwards I will NEVER queue for 50/60 or leveling roulette as a dps. I will always do it as a tank because I can't trust randoms at all.
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    Last edited by VitalSuit; 09-28-2017 at 02:44 PM.

  2. #12192
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    Anonsea's Avatar
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    Character
    Anon Coeurl
    World
    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Thaumaturge Lv 37
    Queued up for a lvling roulette with my DRK. Got Brayflox's normal. Always a good a time

    The run was super smooth, no snags at all.

    The reason I'm posting is because on the second boss fight (where Brayflox comes flaying in with a pieste or w/e on his tail) the BLM we are running with, waits for me to get aggro on both beasts and then.... sleeps the Inferno Drake!!!! Then the party dps's down the small drake before the big dude wakes up... etc etc the fight is won.

    Blown away by this simple yet ingenious move i exclaim to this BLM "I dont know how many times I've run this dungeon, but that is the first time I've ever seen that applied"

    They respond "Well that just kinda makes sense for this fight right?"

    DUTY FINDER IS NOT ALWAYS THAT BAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    (7)

  3. #12193
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    Heliantheae's Avatar
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    Character
    Ekhi Ysengrim
    World
    Brynhildr
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 90
    Levelling up my MNK in Bardam's. Fighting the last boss, I was watching the boss' HP waiting to LB to skip the wings. I started casting it and as soon as I finished he flew away and I was LBing the air.
    (2)

  4. #12194
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    Kahnom's Avatar
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    Arlizz Teirez
    World
    Jenova
    Main Class
    Monk Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Heliantheae View Post
    Levelling up my MNK in Bardam's. Fighting the last boss, I was watching the boss' HP waiting to LB to skip the wings. I started casting it and as soon as I finished he flew away and I was LBing the air.
    Read your story reminds me of my own tale somehow.
    Shisui dungeon last boss I was BLM.
    Boss got 2-3% hp left but still do the fog phase to get away.LB bar was ready.
    So when the boss about to appeared I caster LB before he actually targetable.
    If my timing was right,the boss will become targetable just before I finished LB casted.
    And it will be awesome victory.
    BUT...
    My timing was just a bit off so the boss was alive and SAM stole the glory by kaiten+Midare to finished off the boss.
    Well shame but at least I walked out the dungeon with 2 comms.
    (1)

  5. #12195
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    ChloeGrace's Avatar
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    Character
    Chloe Grace
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 80
    I usually don't do the 50-60 Roulette any more, but I had 50 and 60 on my book this week, so what the hey.
    Sastasha HM as PLD, with a sprout WHM, sprout SAM and a well geared RDM. The healer would regen me constantly whenever it was close to expiring (yes, even in between pulls).
    By the time we got to the first boss, I knew we were in trouble. The healer used nothing but Regen and Cure 1. No cure 2, no holy, no medica, no bene. The boss went stun immune by the time the last tail screw hit and killed a dps. NBD, it happens.
    As soon as we cleared and I moved past the purple barrier marker, i got regen'd. Stopped, asked the healer NOT to regen me in between pulls and explained it messes with aggro and then I have to chase mobs.
    Healer: "What does that even mean?"
    I nearly dropped from the group right then. After that I just wanted it to end. We wiped when I tried pulling the last 3 pirate groups before the final boss, but cure 1 and regen can't keep up with more than 1 pack at a time.
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  6. #12196
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    LittleSparrow's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Lilora Sparrow
    World
    Moogle
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by ChloeGrace View Post
    I usually don't do the 50-60 Roulette any more, but I had 50 and 60 on my book this week, so what the hey.
    Sastasha HM as PLD, with a sprout WHM, sprout SAM and a well geared RDM. The healer would regen me constantly whenever it was close to expiring (yes, even in between pulls).

    ... it messes with aggro and then I have to chase mobs.
    Pre-pull regens are fine. If you can't catch aggro with a regen on you, that's on you bud. Definitely in 50/60 dungeons.
    It doesn't mess with aggro. You walk to the mob, you Unleash/Overpower/Flash before they walk away and you have aggro, if you're doing it properly they won't even scratch the healer.
    Regen will never take that aggro away from you as long as you actually hit them with your aggro generating ability.

    I'm sure there are 70 dungeons which are harder to pick stuff up on with a regen on you, but in 50/60 you should have no problem at all catching aggro and if the healer catches all the aggro, it means either you just walk up to the mobs or you have trouble hitting your AoE emnity generating abilities. You not having aggro in those dungeons is on you and you alone.

    Remember kids, just walking up to mobs is NOT pulling.
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    Last edited by LittleSparrow; 09-28-2017 at 05:14 PM.

  7. #12197
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    SaitoHikari's Avatar
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    Character
    Saito Hikari
    World
    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 100
    Dear Duty Finder thread:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aQGfy_T5eo

    This happened.

    My deepest sympathies for the guy. D:

    (He got better, like 5 minutes later.)
    (1)

  8. #12198
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    Frizze's Avatar
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    Character
    Frizze Steeleblaze
    World
    Lamia
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by VitalSuit View Post
    What the hell tank, if you want to do big pulls just PULL THEM ALL, STOP PLAYING RED LIGHT GREEN LIGHT.
    OMG i couldnt agree more. So annoying trying to read the mind of some random tanks. It takes a minimum of 2 GCDs to get into any kinda effective AoE rotation with BLM, and pushing out a better one takes a couple extra. Start and stop pulling makes this much more annoying.

    ...queue with my healer friend and get 50/60 roulette, get Tam-Tara (hard). Once again exchange pleasantries and then start. Tank says he's new to the dungeon, no problem we'll explain mechanics when we get there. First pull... Tank runs in, flashes twice (in shield oath mind you so this should be my queue to start aoeing down the trash), BOY WAS I WRONG. Blizzard 3, 75% of the enmity bar generated. ???? Fire 3, ripped aggro. WHAT. He flashed twice AND in Shield Oath, I shouldn't even be ripping aggro before my hard hitting spells haven't even come out. Look at the tank's gear, i110 pvp gear left side, some i110 pvp gear right side (like 2 pieces) i38 CASTING AND iWHATEVER CRAFTING ACCESSORIES. Oh lord why.
    Unless i remember it wrong, the level sync on Tam Tara is set at 110, so while the PvP gear almost certainly isnt ideal it is close enough that it should suffice. On the other hand, casting accessories would be next to useless if they were at level, let alone way behind. And crafting gear is completely useless. Biggest indicator is weapon though. Even with that patchwork gear, a good weapon probly would have raised their aggro generation to at least moderate levels. Luckily BLM-tank is so overpowered. I know ive cleared many a dungeon that way.
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  9. #12199
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    Bourne_Endeavor's Avatar
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    Character
    Cassandra Solidor
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by LittleSparrow View Post
    Pre-pull regens are fine.
    No, no they aren't. More split up mobs will run towards the healer immediately, thus forcing the tank to have to collect them. This can be cumbersome, especially as these types of healers are prone to panic running. If nothing else, it's annoying for no actual benefit. Nothing does enough damage to warrant Regen during pulls in most scenarios. The few exceptions can easily be remedied with Tetra or a well timed Cure II. Scholar and Astro have shield options.
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  10. #12200
    Player
    LittleSparrow's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Lilora Sparrow
    World
    Moogle
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    No, no they aren't. More split up mobs will run towards the healer immediately, thus forcing the tank to have to collect them. This can be cumbersome, especially as these types of healers are prone to panic running. If nothing else, it's annoying for no actual benefit. Nothing does enough damage to warrant Regen during pulls in most scenarios. The few exceptions can easily be remedied with Tetra or a well timed Cure II. Scholar and Astro have shield options.
    Flash 2, ranged the other. In any case, in PRE 60 content I have never had a problem with prepull regens as a tank.
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