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  1. #1
    Player
    Lalafallen's Avatar
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    Mikki Evermore
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    Odin
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    Bard Lv 32
    There are some days where I believe that if there's a god out there, he must sure must hate me a lot.

    Decided to level my bard this morning and ended up in Halatali with a conjurer that would do nothing but DPS. After our tank died two times because he got no heals, he left the group. A new tank joined shortly afterwards, but the same thing happened over and over again. At one point our healer started to pull mobs aswell, ofc not healing himself all the while. We kicked him shortly afterwards and I rejoined as a scholar.
    By the way, nope, healer was not new. Hat at least two classes at 60 (bard and dark knight I believe), so that's no excuse playing this bad.

    Now, after finishing the run I thought it would be fun playing around as a scholar for a while. The first two dungeons went fine, but then I joined a in progress Quarn-run, with both healer and tank gone. Well, I thought, one of them was probably bad or something. Oh, how wrong I was...
    After a new tank joined in and we were good to go, I noticed that our lovely summoner did nothing but healing. HIMSELF. Like wat. I asked him politely what he was doing but ofc got no response. After he died on the first boss due to not running onto the platform and still just healing himself I asked him again if he knew how his class worked. No answer. A few minutes pass by with me trying to throw out as much damage as possible, a black mage who occasionally goes afk for a minute and a summoner who would still do nothing but healing himself with his tank pet out (that didn't attack btw) I had enough and initiated a vote kick.

    WHICH GETS DENIED.



    After that, I sat there a few seconds in silence, life flashing before my eyes, before I left without another word.
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    Last edited by Lalafallen; 11-15-2017 at 08:40 PM.

  2. #2
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    Toluthin's Avatar
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    Character
    Umeko Kita
    World
    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 60
    Wanted to do something other than be a tank, so I was lvl'ing my archer. Got Sastasha, normal mode. All players aside from me are sprouts, and somebody is new to the dungeon.

    Honestly couldn't be mad at the healer. They were obviously new, kept disconnecting and was watching every cutscene. Tank and LNC kept running ahead, but I waited behind. They were struggling to heal, but I think it had something to do with their connection.

    Lancer was aggro'ing his own enemies and tanking by himself. Very irritating. He even unlocked the Captain's Quarters and was fighting the reaver himself. He came very close to dying many times.

    The tank wanted to go in the little rooms, but it was obvious the LNC didn't care. They activated the cutscene for the last boss and the tank replied with a "...". Tank was on the other side of the room, not even close to the boss area. I was just hoping that LNC wouldn't rush to try and solo it.

    After the boss, LNC left straight away. I stayed to say "good job" to the tank. I hope that healer is doing well.
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    Last edited by Toluthin; 11-15-2017 at 11:22 PM.

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    Ascarot's Avatar
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    Zir Torment
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    Omega
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Lalafallen View Post
    Decided to level my bard this morning and ended up in Halatali with a conjurer that would do nothing but DPS. After our tank died two times because he got no heals, he left the group. A new tank joined shortly afterwards, but the same thing happened over and over again. At one point our healer started to pull mobs aswell, ofc not healing himself all the while.
    Get something like it in Expert Roullete few days ago. It was Skalla (I was rdm) where suddenly gone tank and dps. Next tank come very quick and dps too and we started... and finished on first boss where our heal only dpsing and healin himself. No protect, no responce. We think it was bot, because right after boss he by himself aggro mobs, then trying hit them by us. Then we just walk away and watch like this bot running from start dung to mobs, healing himself about 10 minutes. We cant kick him, because he always was in battle, so we give him few mobs more and then kick him off.
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  4. #4
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    Avatre's Avatar
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    Avatre Drakone
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 100
    Here's a nice fun story. Go into Rabanasty with three FC members. They were SCH, SMN, and BRD. I was on my RDM. First boss: The orbs aren't being attacked, alliance C isn't dodging ANYTHING(this is where I knew the run would be one of those runs), and the serpents are dying super slow on the other alliances(note: We have a PLD, WHM - get to him in a second -, and two other SMN). No wipe on first boss(WHEW!). Second boss...B and C are dropping...like a ton of bricks. WHM in my party, who was at damned near full MP the ENTIRE raid, pipes up "rdm rez", we wipe once because, well, like hell I can rez 80% of the raid with my MP without help from the WHM(SCH was helping rez...and was almost always less than 50% MP due to actually healing, and DPSing).

    Second try of Hashy, get a little bit further into the fight, C is still dropping to everything(pillars mostly), WHM pipes up for me to rez again. At this point, I'm at 1/5 HP, standing beside the WHM who is doing NOTHING, and Quake is about to go off. I don't have time to cast Vercure to save myself, so I end up dying. Wipe again shortly after that. As we spawn back, the SMN from FC says "the healer should heal and let DPS DPS".

    Medica II was the majority of his healing...throughout the rest of that raid, I raised, and cured, more people than the WHM did. Hell, just during Roffy did I heal and raise more people than they did the ENTIRE raid. Got one of the music scrolls from that...but not even a comm, even from the two SMN that weren't in the FC and I threw raises/cures their way to the point where if I didn't have Lucid constantly giving me MP, I wouldn't have been able to DPS at all.
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  5. #5
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    Kallistra's Avatar
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    Character
    Kallistra Noblesse
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Decide to queue for Leveling and I get the level 63 dungeon. We have a PLD, WHM, NIN/MNK/SAM, and myself on MCH. The four of us say hello, and the healer buffs us. The tank asks the healer if they're alright with big pulls. We awkwardly stand there for almost two minutes before the tank says, "Alright, lol. I guess we'll try. " Everyone is full i270 or above so I don't see why this would be an issue.

    Boy was I wrong.

    The PLD pulls the first 2 groups and pops Rampart while he/she and I start AoEing. This healer is spamming the heck out of them with Cure Is, the melee is standing beside me with his arms folded... not DPSing. The tank is dropping fast. They're spamming Clem, popping cooldowns, and even end up HGing while trying to get some MP back so they can Clem spam when it falls off. I'm trying to give this healer and tank MP, but it's a lost cause and we wipe.

    None of them seem to have broken gear. I don't really understand how we managed to wipe on the first group of trash, but whatever. The tank apologizes and says they'll pull smaller. After the healer buffs us up again they pull one group at a time and we kill them fine (the melee is actually helping now). The tank gives a 15 second countdown before the first boss. No one's said anything aside from the tank apologizing, so I decide to reassure him with a, "Hiccups happen. We're alright."

    Nothing of significance happens until we get to the second boss. When we're all grouped up at the door the tank gives another 15 second countdown. When this countdown hits 0 the melee decides to say "Wait". By then it's too late, the tank has pulled, I'm doing my opener, and the healer is healing. The melee runs out of the boss room and locks themselves out of the fight.

    "Useless tank
    elitist
    you never stop moving
    are you just blind or stupid?
    (healer's name) and me have broken hotbars"

    Keep in mind until this point, neither of those two had said a word other than "hello".

    "Okay. I can wait after boss," The tank says. "I had no idea. I wish someone would have said something sooner."

    And this guy just loses his freaken mind. Swearing at the tank, demanding their healer friend stops healing the tank so we wipe on the boss and they can kick him. So the healer stops healing, thankfully this guy is a PLD and is able to keep the two of us alive so we can finish the boss. The tank immediately grabs the loot after the boss dies and tries to calm down the melee who is still freaking out. I'm trying to back up the tank, calling these two out for their BS because they had more than enough time at multiple points in this dungeon to say something.

    This fight is a lost cause and this tank knows it. I know it. The tank and I are the ones holding up loot so I say to him, "(Tank's name), pass on loot. Trust me." The tank passes and I open up my party list, then I pass too and quickly launch a vote dismiss against this melee. It passes instantly. The tank then says to the healer, "We won't kick you, if you want to stay we'll wait for you to fix your hotbars. Just let us know when you're ready."

    For a moment the healer stands there, we think maybe they're going to ditch their awful friend and fix their hotbars. But the moment passes and they say, "F*ck you" before leaving as well.

    We get a new DPS and healer almost instantly. The tank is able to pull as much as they want and everything goes smoothly for the rest of the dungeon. When we finish the last boss the tank asks the two new members we got to commend me, explaining that other two members were a premade and harassing him. I leave the dungeon with 3 commendations and sent a friend request to the tank.
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    Last edited by Kallistra; 11-16-2017 at 02:06 AM.

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    Ekhi Ysengrim
    World
    Brynhildr
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 90
    People have no idea what to do with the brown markers in Rabanastre. I've had people follow me around with them, I've seen them all stack on top of each other. But the one thing that that bugs me the most, was during the control tower. He started the ground AoE, people had the brown markers. The people with the markers stood right at the edge of the AoE. I would much prefer them stacking together than spaced like that so no one can do anything. And what is with people following me with the purple puddles. Its Nox all over again.


    And while I'm complaining about Rabanastre, what is wrong with the drops. Two runs, not a single healing piece dropped. But Lancer gear did. In both runs. No what we didn't have in either of those runs? Dragoons. Whose that dropping for? I know it's been suggested since Void Ark, probably since LotA, but why not have gear drop for what's in the party? And it's not about gearing alts. First boss dropped DRG gear. No one picked it up. Second boss, same thing. Four out eight pieces of gear gone because no one wanted it. Can we spend these coins on gear?
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  7. #7
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    Vic Ares
    World
    Mateus
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 70
    Leveling duty roulette on my DRK, I land a Qarn, nbd. First time we run into the boss with the doom debuff, both DPS wipe immediately. Explain the mechanics to them & take two. They die again. The healer can't keep up with revives when they take turns dying every other doom (I was actually surprised she kept at it). The healer inevitably runs out of mana, we wipe. Rinse and repeat what, 5 times? Probably could've cleared it faster if we'd left them on the ground and DPSed it down ourselves. I think it took 30mins on that boss alone.

    Next stop, Golem. I mark the soulstone with a <1> for them to attack. I wonder why it's taking so long to take it down and realize that myself and the healer are the only ones on its enmity radar. The DPS hadn't even touched it. I spam the marker on and off trying to get their attention. Still, nothing. Time to dish out some sweet tank DPS. I ended up turning off Grit and soloing the thing down the entire time.

    As for the last boss, just picture the healer running for their lives, kiting five stones that the DPS either hadn't touched or kept killing off the panels.

    To be fair, one of them was new (the other wasn't a sprout or low level so idk what's up with him.) Either way both the healer and I stuck it through to the end, but was it ever an adventure.

    tl;dr - Sunken Temple of Qarn took 45mins to clear
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    Last edited by Zahir; 11-16-2017 at 11:00 AM.

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    Mocita's Avatar
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    Mocita Magicita
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Heliantheae View Post
    And while I'm complaining about Rabanastre, what is wrong with the drops. Two runs, not a single healing piece dropped. But Lancer gear did. In both runs. No what we didn't have in either of those runs? Dragoons. Whose that dropping for? I know it's been suggested since Void Ark, probably since LotA, but why not have gear drop for what's in the party? And it's not about gearing alts. First boss dropped DRG gear. No one picked it up. Second boss, same thing. Four out eight pieces of gear gone because no one wanted it. Can we spend these coins on gear?
    I can relate completely. Not to just off-job gear dropping, but to double gear dropping! Practically every run I've done of Rabanastre the first and second boss drop the same gear from the first chest. Example: 2 Dragoon Pants, 2 Monk/SAM Belts. Give a counter to how many times something drops, and that the same item doesn't drop in the run unless multiple people roll for it.
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  9. #9
    Player MoroMurasaki's Avatar
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    Moro Murasaki
    World
    Zalera
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 80
    I admit to sometimes being a bit of a DPS-happy healer. I tend to run roulettes with friends who know this and they might spend a bit more time in tank stance because of it but WHM is a dungeon steamroller so no harm no fowl. A pug tank today found a way to shut that down real fast.

    Today I queued for expert alone, it was getting me enough creation to pick up my 330 AST weapon. I got Temple of the Fist with what I am pretty sure was a premade PLD/NIN/RDM.

    Right from the start things were a bit suspect, the DPS focused down the first moss wall together and the tank took off running up the stairs. He pulled every mob up to the first boss area. I've never actually seen that done involving even the couerls from the opening area. I am literally spamming Largress'd Cure II on him and at one point the RDM eats an AoE but I can't heal him back up because if I stop funneling health to this PLD he will die literally instantly.

    Every area is like this, pull everything possible all the time. He only stopped for the bosses, the stone door between bosses one and two and the fog between bosses two and three.

    I will say the RDM was on their mana shift button, that's what they got my comm for. Everyone knew mechanics and performed them for the most part. DPS was so good we never even saw Tapas from the second boss and I think only one Touch of Slaughter from the final but hot damn I was happy to get out of there.
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  10. #10
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    ChloeGrace's Avatar
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    Character
    Chloe Grace
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by MoroMurasaki View Post
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    Dungeons like that are not enjoyable at all. I get the whole desire for efficiency, but the stress it causes, especially to healers, just makes it un-fun.
    One pack at a time is too slow, 2-3 (depending on what the mobs are) is fine by me. Sure, the dungeon takes 5 minutes longer but I can live with that.
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