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  1. #11941
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    HyoMinPark's Avatar
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    Lavender Beds, Ward 13, Plot 41
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    Hyomin Park
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 92
    This happened a couple days ago. Leveling SCH, and I've already been a bit down in the dumps due to life stresses, so I was running a few dungeons to try and get to level 66 before the night was over. Queue into Bardam's Mettle, get DRK tank, and DPS are BLM/NIN. First boss, NIN attempts to stack with me for Rush. Had no idea what he was doing and kept running away from him, but it soon became obvious....... when his BLM friend got marked, the two of them stacked with a tank and allowed the AOE to kill all three of them, leaving just me.

    Me: "That isn't a shared AOE (thinking perhaps they weren't familiar with the mechanic--can't remember if there was a bonus message or not); you want to move as far away from the boss as possible, and I will shield you to mitigate some damage."
    NIN: "Oh, he knows how to do the mechanic lol"
    BLM: "Best party wipe I've ever done. It'll be hard to top that."

    Second boss: both purposely got themselves locked out and were emote-spamming/spamming "Whoopies~" "You two got this!" while me and the DRK were doing the mechanics boss. I was already annoyed at the unnecessary party wipe on the first boss, and this just annoyed me further. Final boss, I'm honestly surprised that neither of them did something stupid to wipe the group again (though the BLM did die from standing in AOEs but meh), but the dungeon itself lasted far longer than we needed it to because of how little both of them were actually doing (caught the BLM just standing idle so much that I ended up dealing more damage FOR THE ENTIRE INSTANCE compared to them ON FREAKING SCH).

    If you want to troll and goof off and cause unnecessary party wipes, that's fine, but do it in a full premade. Wish I could have commended that poor DRK for having to deal with two deadbeat DPS. I'm sure I got his comm in the end, but he left before I could select "OK" on the Commendation menu. :c To that DRK: You were a good tank, and I'm sorry we had to deal with those two clowns. Normally I just shrug off this kind of dumb behavior and ignore it, but I was so close to just leaving the instance after the first and second boss fights. If I hadn't been just a sliver away from 66, I would have. Could have probably tried initiating a kick on one of them, but I just wanted to get out of there. Wasn't in the mood for those kind of shenanigans that night.
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    Last edited by HyoMinPark; 09-14-2017 at 06:56 AM.

  2. #11942
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    Kelani's Avatar
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    Character
    Jojo Leah
    World
    Louisoix
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 74
    I wanna share something good! The last couple of days I've been levelling my Astro and paladin to level 50. The first instance I get as Astro at level 50 was stone vigil hard. One of the dps commented that they'd been queuing for 40 mins, I'd been queuing for 20 mins and we were just generally chit chatting about it, the tank pipes up, "I insta-popped!" We made a joke and started the dungeon only to be hit with total chaos. I've never seen a tank die so quickly and I honestly thought it was my fault as it was my first high level dungeon (levelling roulettes I was always unlucky with getting low level dungeons) so I did panick. I apologised and we returned to the start and the mobs follow us. Again I'm trying to heal the tank and again he was taking so much damage, again I think it's my fault. The tank immediately leaves and the dps both say, no don't leave, we'll wait for another tank. At this point I'm still unsure whether it's my fault or not and again I apologise. I told them I'd only just levelled to 50 and they kept saying don't worry, it wasn't your fault. A new tank comes and I'm a little nervous and we start again. This time it was totally different, the tank is maintaining aggro and I'm healing fine apart from one thing. I'm so used to doing low level dungeons where I can't use the draw ability that for a good part of the dungeon I forgot to use cards. I again apologise, feeling totally worthless as a Astro, but the dps and the new tank are so nice, instead of flaming me they encouraged me and we went on to complete the dungeon with no problems. I definitely don't think I deserved it, but they all gave me a player commendation. It was one of those times you wished you could give more than one comms, so I just gave the one dps that encouraged me the most. I want to thank them for sticking with me and giving me encouragement, it's really nice when you get into a good group like that!
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  3. #11943
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    Ametrine's Avatar
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    Diantha Sunstone
    World
    Goblin
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Mirateski View Post
    Snip.
    I heal over my own freaking Excogs. It's a safety net skill to ease up tankbusters orto give you enough room to get your dots up.

    I'm sorry but getting angry at a co-healer or tank (or Red) for not being comfortable with letting a party member drop low enough for Excog to go off isn't rude nor bad play. It's just average play, to be frank. Aetherflows aren't that hard to refresh anymore, and Excognition is a very situational skill by it's nature. If you've gone 45 seconds without it needing to go off, you just can Aetherflow again, and recast it. The timing is just right for that.

    I keeping imagining you slapping a staff out of a WHM's hands for having the audacity to use Cure when the tank hits 80% HP. How dare.
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  4. #11944
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    Alright, I had to come back to the forums to share this interesting tale…I seriously got frustrated and amused all at the same time.
    Queued up as a SAM for my trials roulette, and it’s an instant queue. Okay…so that’s not a good sign. I immediately think of the Moogle King, but more often than not, that trial tends to be painful. Go in and, nope, it’s not the moogles, but the Royal Menagerie.

    Awesome. 47minutes left on the timer and both of the tanks are gone.

    Even better.

    A tank queues in and we say yolo, let’s see how this goes. In the middle of the first Tidal Wave cast, the second tank pops in. I’m confident that we can get this with no problems now. And then…
    IT happens. The ugly side of the Duty Finder.

    One of the healers gets a stack mechanic, and he RUNS from the party. I guess most of them said screw it because they stopped chasing him after a little bit, and even I eventually just said the hell with it and let him eat the stack alone. Of course he dies. We make it through the rest of the phase just fine, and we’re doing pretty good until the boss hits about 27%. Healers were…not healing (I should mention we had a WHM and a SCH) and I died, a tank died, and two more DPS eventually died. I’m spamming healer LB3 in the chat. When the other tank goes down, the chat box blows up with calls for LB3.

    The living healer rezzes the other healer. One of them is attempting to longcast rez someone and the other healer is trying to keep the other party members alive. Through all of this, the chat is still blowing up with calls for that healer LB3. Both healers had more than enough time to cast it. I can count about 7 seconds that they had free time to cast it.

    What happens? They end up dying and the run is a wipe.

    One of the healers says it’s their fault, they didn’t see the messages in the chat box.

    Um…how? I leave it alone because I don’t want to go into queue, but one of the tanks sort of…kind of rips into the healer for somehow missing the 15 or so messages calling for the Lb3.

    The next run goes in absolute silence…

    And we clear. So I couldn’t be mad at that. But…seriously, why is the Royal Menagerie such a difficult fight for players? Even now? Even with jump potions, you’ve had to see some variation of everything that the boss tosses at you. I can probably forgive ahk morn and diamond dust if you’ve been skipping trials roulette…but still…Royal Menagerie is not hard. Why are players still struggling with this fight?
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  5. #11945
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    Alien_Gamer's Avatar
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    Cynehild Westknight
    World
    Jenova
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 96
    Quote Originally Posted by KaivaC View Post
    But…seriously, why is the Royal Menagerie such a difficult fight for players? Even now? Even with jump potions, you’ve had to see some variation of everything that the boss tosses at you. I can probably forgive ahk morn and diamond dust if you’ve been skipping trials roulette…but still…Royal Menagerie is not hard. Why are players still struggling with this fight?
    I think you answered your own question. Not everyone raids, not everyone does trials on a regular basis, not everyone practices that kind of content. There will always be new people and there will always be people who don't have mechanics memorized or even well practiced, thats part of the nature of MMOs.
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  6. #11946
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    Singularity's Avatar
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    Ariane Aster
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    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by KaivaC View Post
    One of the healers gets a stack mechanic, and he RUNS from the party. I guess most of them said screw it because they stopped chasing him after a little bit
    This is actually the best thing you can do in that situation. With the update latency and position snapshotting, you're likely to lose 2-3 people if you chase instead of the one person that runs with the stack.
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  7. #11947
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    Mikki Evermore
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    Odin
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 32
    Had an annoying Halatali-run yesterday. I queued as WHM to get to lvl30 and get the unicorn-mount, so I was hoping for quick EXP-run. What I got was the complete opposite.
    When the tank grabbed the first pack of mobs, I started DPsing ofc. Suddenly I noticed one of the DPs saying in chat: "Don't attack, don't heal." I just shrugged since I didn't know what was going on, when the tank suddenly kept going. After he grabbed the third mob and kept running, I figured out what was going on: The tank wanted to grab every monster and run until he reached the boss, let himself die, reset the mobs and get revived by me.
    This worked for the first boss, but as for the second... oh lord. I admit I made a few mistakes, got aggro from mobs by accident (which I didn't even understand why) and stuff like that. BUT there were at least two times were I got attacked by three monsters which followed us in the boss arena - and the DPs did nothing, letting the group wipe again. After a while I got so annoyed that I didn't even care anymore.

    The funny thing is, the way to the second boss went so bad that it took as half an hour to finish the dungeon - more than the same time you'd need to clear it completely.

    I actually blacklisted all three of them (they were a pre-made group), because running content with these guys ever again? No, thank you.

    If you want to do your runs like that, then fine. But tell people beforehand, instead of running ahead und expecting a "new" lvl23-healer to know what you're doing. And jfc, if there are three monsters left, attack them instead of just standing around and being pissed afterwards.
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  8. #11948
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    Quote Originally Posted by Singularity View Post
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    Ahhhh, I knew I forgot to add something. The healer was aware of what he was doing, because after he died and was called out on it, he said something to the effect of 'don't judge him'. Wasn't a panic move on his part.
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  9. #11949
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    Kakiko's Avatar
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    Character
    Halo Kitty
    World
    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 90
    My main class is BLM but I recently decided to give CON/WHM a try. I've been working on leveling up and hit level 22 tonight. I do levequests and leveling roulettes. I'm new to healing; never healed in anything I've ever played before. I don't think I'm doing terribly bad; no one has ever died because I slacked off with the healing.

    So, tonight I queue up the duty roulette again and get sent to Copperbell. No biggie; easy peasy chicken sleezy. Everything was going fine until the entire party minus myself stood in this little tunnel between the shafts and got obliterated by a bomb. Every single one of them dead. (-.-)' I was saying in chat "move move move!" but.. nope. *sigh*

    And then I go back to Limsa and get my first offer of ERP.

    Been an interesting night.
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  10. 09-14-2017 06:15 PM

  11. #11950
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    Mirateski's Avatar
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    Character
    Ar'telan Qin
    World
    Omega
    Main Class
    Fisher Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Ametrine View Post
    I keeping imagining you slapping a staff out of a WHM's hands for having the audacity to use Cure when the tank hits 80% HP. How dare.
    I would if I could. It's bad play to do so, unless you know a hit that's gonna do 80% of their hp is coming up. It's exactly the same as an ast staying noct and overwriting a sch's shields, which I see people bitch about in this thread all the time, but because "OH MY GOD THE TANK TOOK A SCRATCH MUST HEAL IMMEDIATELY" isn't directly inconveniencing you, it's ok?
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