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  1. #11931
    Player
    EorzeaHero69's Avatar
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    Sep 2014
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    Ul'dah, Thanalan
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    Character
    George Strong
    World
    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 100
    Last night in Doma castle, I was leveling my war, and I pull big mobs as usual. At the beginning of the dungeon I noticed the AST wasn't healing me, even though I used Def CDs (not all at once), convalescence, equilibrium and holmgang when I was extremely low on HP after. Not even an hp regen or a Stellar Explosion aoe was around (I was highlighting the healer on the party list and he didn't have the stellar buff, nor did I see the animation for it), so the mob killed me, and the healer told me I was bad for not using holmgang, despite the fact that I did, hurled a lot of insults at me (mostly swear words and slurs), then left. Probably coulda reported him for that, but was a little to focused on my warrior to even bother. Plus nothing bothers me much anyways, but still, I think the name calling was unnecessary.
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    Last edited by EorzeaHero69; 09-13-2017 at 03:26 PM.

  2. #11932
    Player
    Venoshock's Avatar
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    Dec 2015
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    Seal Rock
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    Character
    Char Mae
    World
    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 70
    Seriously, wtf is it with SB and a whole giant tidalwave of BAD players? tody out of 6 dungeon runs I've had a tank not use dark arts +abyssal drain or unleash, he face pulls everything and loses aggro to me even when using lucid dreaming and diversion, the nin had to even step in and ask him to use it, and he stayed silent and left. Had a bard just right now single arget attacking when i have 13 mbs on me in temple of the fist to which i had to ask him and all i got was silence. The AST and SAM carried him all the way. I was so tempted to kick, then i get this shit. WTF!









    Things like this needs to be stopped Square Enix, this is beyond a Joke. Maybe...maybe i should just stop giving a crap and do whatever I want. It works for these jokers, and what makes it worse is if you dare to ay anything, YOU'RE the asshole and the elitist. I'm so blooody tired of it. This game and its community is getting worse. Like XIV in terms of skill has the worse community I have ever been a part of and it's the only community that will happily defend poor play, if you say anything you're an elitist or an asshole. >_>

    ps : it hurts to rip on an elezen like this, i think they're gorgeous and I love them, if i see one they almost always get my comm because i love them so much....just this one hurts my soul
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    Last edited by Venoshock; 09-19-2017 at 09:00 AM.

  3. #11933
    Player
    Zfz's Avatar
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    Character
    Celenir Istarkh
    World
    Atomos
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Darkobra View Post
    From my experience of Samurai before 60, it REALLY eats your TP using AoE and you could probably burn single targets faster and more consistent. I don't know if it gets any better later on.
    For short packs, i.e. the other DPS is also AOEing properly, SAM usually should have enough TP to go full out and finish one large pack. If the tank is pulling medium packs in quick succession, giving little time for TP regen, then you can pace yourself by keeping up your self damage buff, this should give you good enough pacing on TP that you can be AOEing in every pull.

    Also a lot of SAMs don't seem to realize this, but Iaijutsu does not interrupt your comboes. So it's actually possible (and very useful) when you already have whatever Sen you need from a previous pull, to still do, for example, Hakaze -> Jinpu (self damage buff) -> Iaijutsu (Tenka Goken) -> Gekko -> Fuka -> Oka -> Iaijutsu (Tenka Goken).

    Personally I just keep my self damage buff up all the time because I have never received Goad nor got any Tactician ever, in dungeons. Never. So I've just got into the habit of always pacing my SAM AOE TP. (Note all this is already with using Invigorate. It's stupid to know there's a TP issue yet not take Invigorate.)
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    Last edited by Zfz; 09-13-2017 at 03:36 PM.
    “There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self.”
    ― Ernest Hemingway

  4. #11934
    Player
    Skos's Avatar
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    Character
    Tater Thot
    World
    Moogle
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 70
    Honestly, even if you feel you're gonna run out of TP, using AoE on Samurai is still a DPS increase on 3 targets or more.

    If you're actually running into TP issues all you have to do is pace yourself, use single target combos and spend your Sen on Tenka Goken and you should be doing more than enough AoE damage.

    There's no reason not to use Fuga combos on 3+ targets unless you're lazy or you need to use the Gekko combo to get Jinpu up.
    (3)

  5. #11935
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    Vayanne's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Sylvayn Eauvent
    World
    Zodiark
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Venoshock View Post
    ...I was so tempted to kick, then i get this shit. WTF!
    ...
    ps : it hurts to r.i.p on an elezen like this, i think they're gorgeous and I love them, if i see one they almost always get my comm because i love them so much....just this one hurts my soul
    I know you didn't feel like laughing but I just... Can't stop... I am currently at work, chuckled at the first two pictures but you had me at the belt, I had to run out of the room concealing my giggles and to the bathroom to prevent an incident.
    Let me heal your soul!
    (1)

  6. #11936
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    Lilseph's Avatar
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    Character
    Shadow Link
    World
    Mateus
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Venoshock View Post
    if you dare to ay anything, YOU'RE the asshole and the elitist. (
    This is true and reminds me of this famous image:



    Just add a**hole and elitist.
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  7. #11937
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    Lalafallen's Avatar
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    Oct 2015
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    Character
    Mikki Evermore
    World
    Odin
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 32
    Quote Originally Posted by Venoshock View Post
    Recently I see a lot of people with nearly every job on 60 - 70 but don't have any idea how to play their class.
    Like the MNK in Shisui, who wouldn't use any of their positions, just standing behind the bosses or mobs the whole time. So I checked their profile and noticed that they had multiple classes at least on lvl60, so they actually should know how to play this game at all.
    Since mobs were dying terribly slow I asked them if it wouldn't be better for them to use their positions in order to make more damage. After that they stood still after a while (maybe typing?), but got back to the group about half a minute, still not doing their job right. x___x
    (3)

  8. #11938
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    Mysterysword's Avatar
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    Dec 2015
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    Character
    Siesta Fiesta
    World
    Coeurl
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 80
    Dear tanks,

    I know you're used to crappy DPS who couldn't pull off a proper AoE combo/spam if their lives depended on it, but when you wind up with BLMs like yours truly in, say Kugane Castle, who do know how to perform their ridiculously simple and effective AoE rotation, you need to put some effort into actually holding aggro.

    Because you know what? It doesn't matter how much you try to tank in DPS stance, the DPS gain you get from neglecting your actual job will never outweigh the DPS loss that comes from me dying. Because I ripped aggro even after using Diversion and Lucid Dreaming. Or the healer couldn't keep you up because you're allergic to defensive cooldowns.

    Also, nobody likes you.
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  9. #11939
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    BlastHardcheese's Avatar
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    Character
    Green Flame
    World
    Omega
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Lalafallen View Post
    snippety
    I'm a serial leveller (I'll hit 70 and immediately start something else) and I don't understand how people forget how to play jobs they've leveled over so much time.

    Theres no excuse for the gear thing, go buy sone level appropriate white gear and no one but douchebags will care, trust me. A part of me thinks they've done this for every job they've leveled and I wheep for their past parties.
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  10. #11940
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    Mirateski's Avatar
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    Jun 2016
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    Character
    Ar'telan Qin
    World
    Omega
    Main Class
    Fisher Lv 70
    I am so done with healers healing over my excogitation. Even worse, when it's a SCHOLAR DOING IT (and they're not using their own).

    In Lakshmi ex (yes, ex), I had both my cohealer (a whm who, coincidentally, also didn't go south for divie doubt despite being asked/told like six times) AND THE PALADIN heal over it. I asked them not to. The WHM kept doing it, the pld said "sorry, just practising my precasting"

    Precasting? On a pld?

    Then in 2n I had a whm who used cure whenever the tank took a tiny scratch. I asked them not to, repeatedly, they didn't respond. The RDM said "vercure? " So I commed them because they were the only light in the miserable sea of pitch that is omega normal weeklies.
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