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  1. #11691
    Player
    Vidu's Avatar
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    Vidu Moriquendi
    World
    Odin
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 90
    So, you'd think not much can happen in a guildhest since it only takes like 2 minutes but this just baffled me a little - I'm trying to finish the weekly thingie for my RDM and queued up for the morbol-guildhest (since thats giving me a bonus too). Its a level 31 guildhest, just as a reminder.

    We load in and... nothing happens for a minute or so. Tank just stands there, healer turns on diurnal, but doesnt cast protect. Its a level 31 guildhest, we dont actually really need protect - and we certainly dont need to stand around waiting a minute til everyone figures that out.

    So the following "conversation" between me and the tank happens:

    [17:43](Me) Shield-oath and go?
    [17:43](Tank) Wen u want
    [17:43](Me) well, you're the tank so its up to you to pull
    [17:45](Tank) I w8 4 prot
    [17:45](Tank) Nub

    I mean... its by no means a big deal but neither is protect. I left the time-stamps in because seriously the whole thing took 2 minutes - 2 minutes one can go without protect. I also sort of always believed that no one seriously types like that. Or rather hoped...
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  2. #11692
    Player
    JoeDono's Avatar
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    Oct 2013
    Location
    Limsa Lominsa
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    61
    Character
    Jotun Lamora
    World
    Famfrit
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 100
    Finished my roulettes on MNK, so I queued for some of the higher dungeons. Healer d/c'd in the middle of the last boss fight, so we wipe. We decide to give the healer 5-8 minutes to log back in before we kick. The time comes and goes and I'm waiting to hit yes on the Vote Kick window when I'm suddenly kicked from the instance. It was probably a mistake, but I had waited an hour for that queue...
    (0)

    Maybe I'm a lion...

  3. #11693
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    Awful's Avatar
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    Character
    Awful Name
    World
    Faerie
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Just had a great leveling roulette on my MCH, I get Haukke Manor with a Whm/Nin/GLD, we all said hello and started pulling, right off the bat I notice the Whm is using 1 Cure every like 10 seconds while the GLD is dropping mad. We get to the 3rd pull in the hallway and the healer lets the tank die and then starts attacking them saying "you should be a PLD in Haukke Manor wtf man go do PotD".

    I defended the GLD by saying well they're new and probably don't know what it is, we get into it and they start talking about how there's "rebalanced entounters?", to which I replied it's the same as it's always been just threat has been buffed aaannd they left which is fine since all they did was complain about the tank which I told em that most people walked in here before their jobs as it's level 28.

    We continue on and have no issues, taught the nin some stuff about returning to the front entrance, the tank about running behind Void Fires/Lightnings to dodge them completely and everyone was grateful for the experience, walked away with 3 comms to felt great, I had a lot of fun if anyone from the group reads this you guys were awesome and i'd group with you any day! Love your friendly neighborhood Hyur <3
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  4. #11694
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    Astylis's Avatar
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    Sep 2013
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    Character
    Elayna Elwes
    World
    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 70
    I was getting my weekly clears for Omega normal a few days ago. First run of V3 ended with a wipe due to reaching enrage. I honestly had no idea normal mode had an enrage timer.
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  5. #11695
    Player
    Moonfish's Avatar
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    Character
    Autumn Stardust
    World
    Malboro
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Mysterysword View Post
    But... This was a PLD. He could've dropped out, repaired his gear, and gotten an instant-queue back into RM once his penalty wore off.
    He probably went in with broken gear. Someone like that certainly is not selfless enough to take the penalty to help 7 other people.
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  6. #11696
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    missybee's Avatar
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    Dec 2013
    Location
    Weeb Town
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    420
    Character
    Mia Montblanc
    World
    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 94
    Quote Originally Posted by KaivaC View Post
    I mention that the DPS is going in my spot, and he says that he was moving based on the direction the boss was facing. I asked him what he meant, and his exact words were that the true north was the direction where the boss was facing. He also claimed that most of the groups in savage go by this as well. Now...I've personally never seen "most groups" doing this.
    Some groups definitely do the direction the boss is facing as true north since it can help DPS with positionals.

    I am of the opinion that it can be a little superfluous on Alte Roite (we just let the DPS with positionals hang out in the middle), but it does feel pretty helpful on Halicarnassus.
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    Last edited by missybee; 08-29-2017 at 03:17 AM.

  7. #11697
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    Galaktica's Avatar
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    Character
    Evermillion Mariposa
    World
    Ultros
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 80
    What is it with tanks who let the other tank pull, but then suddenly decide they want to tank? I did MSQ roulette and other tank goes into dps stance which, in my mind, is the universal symbol for "you go ahead other tank." So I go ahead and pull and do my thing etc etc all the way up to the first boss. Suddenly I'm fighting for aggro the rest of the dungeon.

    Just say you want to tank now. That's all you have to do. Don't let the other tank tank and then decide you think you can do a better job without saying anything.
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  8. #11698
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    JumperX's Avatar
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    Character
    Sam West
    World
    Mateus
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 36
    Quote Originally Posted by Galaktica View Post
    What is it with tanks who let the other tank pull, but then suddenly decide they want to tank? I did MSQ roulette and other tank goes into dps stance which, in my mind, is the universal symbol for "you go ahead other tank." So I go ahead and pull and do my thing etc etc all the way up to the first boss. Suddenly I'm fighting for aggro the rest of the dungeon.

    Just say you want to tank now. That's all you have to do. Don't let the other tank tank and then decide you think you can do a better job without saying anything.
    To be fair, in lvl50 dungeons I usually go OT cuz I always see the other tank (war/pld/drk) going ASAP MT, but when we start to fight me without voking the boss end up getting aggro and even after the other tank voke the boss.

    Sometimes it happen. Better ilvl gears and the correct dps combo can work against the enmity of the other tank. May be they should consider to go OT if they think that can happen
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    Last edited by JumperX; 08-29-2017 at 04:05 AM.

  9. #11699
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    KalinOrthos's Avatar
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    Character
    Kalin Orthos
    World
    Mateus
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 80
    Had a Stone Vigil run with three sprouts. We sadly died on the very first pull, but I noticed some things: healer was spamming Cure 2 and running out of mana, and tank wasn't exceptionally geared and not using cooldowns. After we rezzed, I offered some suggestions for both of them, and they both seemed extremely receptive to the advice I gave. Sure enough, while we had a couple of wipes on some of the harder pulls, everything pulled together, and by the end, the two were indistinguishable from any tank or healer at that level. It always feels good when you have a couple of new players who want to learn and improve.
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  10. #11700
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    Ulfhade's Avatar
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    Oct 2013
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    Chocobo Races
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    70
    Character
    W'skhol Tia
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Galaktica View Post
    What is it with tanks who let the other tank pull, but then suddenly decide they want to tank? I did MSQ roulette and other tank goes into dps stance which, in my mind, is the universal symbol for "you go ahead other tank." So I go ahead and pull and do my thing etc etc all the way up to the first boss. Suddenly I'm fighting for aggro the rest of the dungeon.

    Just say you want to tank now. That's all you have to do. Don't let the other tank tank and then decide you think you can do a better job without saying anything.
    You know, had a similar thing happen to me yesterday in O2. Me and the other tank load in, I give them a min to choose a stance, they don't so I go in Grit. They choose the WAR OT stance. About 3/4ths of the way though the fight, I'm suddenly fighting for aggro, and I see they put on their MT stance, and pull old tentacley towards the party just in time for all of them to be hit by the cleave. I try to grab back aggro, they're having none of it, so I just remove tank stance. Got better things to do than have a pissing match. Amazingly, when I removed my tank stance, they decided that no, they don't want to MT and put their OT stance back on.

    Apparently according to some of my fc members, not the first time they've heard of other tanks doing that. Sad.
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