Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent.

[SicariusSeven]

Had a tank who used a parser in fractal and called the healer and one of the dps out because their dps didn't satisfied him. My dps was somewhat satisfied him so I didn't get called out, but I had to leave anyway because it was getting ugly.

I hate people that do that. Yes I can understand DPS being important in 8man groups but if it's just a dungeon then things will be fine. Everyone seems to want to 'rush' these days.

[Ceallach]

Ceallach, you can edit your posts to get around the word limit And reposting MoroMurasaki's advice as well, think that applies to your situation! People who want to learn will listen, please don't let people discourage you from the game.

I actually had no idea I could do that. Thanks!

And yeah, I'll resume leveling them. I just might want to do so with my free company first to ease back into it. I've also been giving the Hunt priority for riding maps.

[dayspring83]

Queued up for Doma Castle as BRD this morning...pleasantries are exchanged as we enter, off we go. Run goes relatively smooth, no wipes, no deaths, mobs are dying run takes about 20 minutes.

After boss dies, I roll on all the remaining loot and say

"/p Pleasure singing for y'all [Take Care]"

Everyone except the tank leaves. Hasn't moved since boss died, I figured he d/c'ed or went AFK. I dont need any of the loot on the table, I only rolled greed for gil/seals. Tank still AFK so I tab over and do some web browsing. Come back to

"/p I only waited to roll on items because you made me wait to roll on my weapon before. Doesnt feel too good does it?" - Tank

Ok, so recently I've gotten in the habit of always not rolling on one item in between boss fights. Not trying to be malicious, I'm just trying to protect myself from getting kicked. If someone says hey, can you roll, I need that. I would absolutely do so. The tank was pretty well geared so it didnt even dawn on me that he/she needed the weapon, it just happened to be the one thing I didnt roll on. Plus it's not like there was much of a pause before the final boss that would even indicate to me that they needed that roll. Exact opposite thing happened to me the other day, so I asked tank to pause before next pull so I could roll need on an AST globe that was a nice upgrade. Party accommodated, I win roll, boss dies, we profit.

Moral of the story, people aren't always trying to be dicks about stuff. Communication is important even in DF PUG groups. Shoulda just spoke up dude.

[Taika]

Ok, so recently I've gotten in the habit of always not rolling on one item in between boss fights. Not trying to be malicious, I'm just trying to protect myself from getting kicked.

Are you somehow playing in a way that is often getting you kicked, or why would you do this?

I've been kicked in this game once, in 2013... I'm really confused about you feeling a need to do this.

[dayspring83]

Are you somehow playing in a way that is often getting you kicked, or why would you do this?

I've been kicked in this game once, in 2013... I'm really confused about you feeling a need to do this.

Nay, never been kicked. Lurking in these forums over the years has made me paranoid. Im not the best Bard and I worry some pre made is gonna hit me with "...your deeps". Or if I offer a person advice on their rotation and they take it the wrong way.

So no, no particular experience has caused me to do this. I've just become paranoid about DF groups over time. Especially when join an in progress and am told they kicked the previous person for some silly reason.

I guess I also didn't think it bothered anyome since no has ever said anything. Don't see how it's any different than someone not rolling because of tunnel vision.

[Zhamkyong]

Communication is important even in DF PUG groups. Shoulda just spoke up dude.

Sometimes comunication just makes things worse.

A few hours ago i helped a friend with Ala Mhigo in his first time with it, he was a WHM and i was SMN. Now, i have been using RDM more often for dungueons since Stormblood launched and got SMN up again not long ago. So, even if i am doing Extreme trials with him -with good results so far- i am still a little green in dungueons with the new abilities and rotation. My friend stated it was a first timer in the dungeon -also a returner- but tank just said "use sprint to follow, dont worry". We were in discord, so i told him to get ready to heal REALLY hard. The tank pulled all the groups she could get and i admit, she was a damn good one mitigating damage out of them. My friend just got into a reminder on fastforward on how deal with tight situations out of that, but because he did not know the attack patern of some mobs he struggled a bit. Everything was going fine and smothly, we were making some mistakes time to time -my mouse is giving me some problem with the right button- but nothing serious until the tank died in a pull. My friend tried to explain what happened, he got in a AOE and had to move for not to die in another one, unable to heal the tank, she died from the group. The other dps -Bard- and me while my friend kept us alive finished them off with no problem.

Like i said, i proceeded to explain, with good words, why the healer was unable to keep her alive at the time... what i got was a rant about how my dps was crap and i could not speak until i learn to use my class properly. That left me a couple of second with a strange face, my friend asked to me confused why did they where even talking about the dps if it was not my fault that she died in the first place.

In the end we cleared the dungeon, i had to res 3 times my mate in the last boss -i had to explain to him mechanics on the fly, no one bothered to stop and tell him- but we made it.

The tank was a good one, but hell, her behaviour about the dps was the most toxic i can remember in a long time. Also his friend was insisting that my dps was below him the whole time, and that i had to admit i was bad at it. I know SMN has issues and myself i am learning and adapting to squeeze the most of the class that i can -i had an amazing group of Susano just yesterday and made some new friends after some clears, even we talked about the dps numbers after i knew they were parsing because i wanted to know if i was doing it well- but their words just left me nearly speechless.

In short, just comunicating made things worse for us there even if we where just being friendly despite them rushing with a healer first timer in that dungeon.

Who does a parse in a dungeon anyway?

[Aosha]

Tank is super squishy and I'm constantly pulling aggro off them. I think, huh, I wonder what's up? Check their gear out.

It's. It's level 60 gear. Already feeling my blood pressure rise a little.

Makes me wonder why item level restrictions are not a thing for leveling dungeons.

[Mirateski]

Doma Woema

I recently levelled both WHM and AST to 70 and 90% of the tanks I rolled were allergic to cooldowns somehow. It's just that dungeon? Bardam's is iffy but usually alright, and I had no issues in Abania, just... Doma.

It did amuse me that my first time through (as a tank) I tried the big pulls in pseudo-BiS from 3.4, got an AST who told me to "get better gear", then managed myself to heal full 260 tanks who were allergic to cooldowns through similar pulls. Not that I enjoyed any second of spamming cure spells with largesse up and screaming, but I DID it.

[Paladinleeds]

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That was a clear cut case of harassment. You should have kicked, and then reported either while you were waiting on the new tank, or after the duty if you got the new tank pretty quickly. People need to stand up to harassment, and yes, the GMs do ban for it. One of my friends that I met in-game actually got permanently banned for harassment.

[Paladinleeds]

Oh fun times. Got quite the story here.

Bardam's Mettle, I'm the healer (AST). Tank is a triggerhappy Clemency PLD (but it did save our bacon a few times, so I won't complain), a DRG, and a RDM, who did help out with support too. Now, I try to be a proactive healer and make sure mechanics are followed, so I carry Rescue for this reason. But boy was I in for a treat with Rescue on the first boss. I look over and it seems the DRG hasn't followed the mechanic (thinking back in hindsight, they had, but awful camera angle made me think they hadn't). I rescue them to get them to follow the mechanic. Or so I tried. I hadn't properly gauged the distance at my end. In turn, I accidentally killed both the DRG and the RDM. My face went bright red. I'm there apologising profusely, and kicking myself over it. Rest of the group is just laughing themselves stupid. Here was the conversation that followed directly after the ill-fated Rescue:

(DRG) x)
(AST) oh ffs sorrey
(DRG) x)

It also resulted in the following conversation to be had in a later pull.

(AST) I do sometimes use Rescue to help with mechanics, never seen it backfire like that though
(DRG) it is fine, i was just laughing x)
(RDM) It was pretty great, to be honest <3
(PLD) same here ^_^

Later on the RDM does accidentally ninjapull the penultimate pull before the final boss, but just like with the Rescue mishap, everyone was OK with it. Tank just popped Hallowed Ground, secured aggro, me PLD and RDM went into super-healing mode. Nobody died on that pull. So it all worked out in the end.

While embarassing for me, it was a good run overall. And yes, that is the first time I've ever seen a well intentioned Rescue backfire so badly.