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    Zefiris's Avatar
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    Limwris Abriel
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    I was doing roulette expert now as bard and a ninja started to complain about I was not using Quick Nock. Well, particularly prefer to put dot in each one of enemies and to use Rain of Death when available. As I foresaw that I was going to be kicked of instance, only said Sorry and leaves by own wish.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zefiris View Post
    I was doing roulette expert now as bard and a ninja started to complain about I was not using Quick Nock. Well, particularly prefer to put dot in each one of enemies and to use Rain of Death when available. As I foresaw that I was going to be kicked of instance, only said Sorry and leaves by own wish.
    You handled the confrontation with another player well, if you knew a vote kick was going to happen.

    The pull, though, not so much :/

    Putting up dots on every single target in big pulls takes a LONG time (you mentioned expert so I'm just assuming tank was doing mega pulls), it's inefficient as they'll wear off targets by the time you get back to them, and prolonging mob lifespan takes heavy tolls on everyone else:

    The tank, who's going to run out of cooldowns/TP/MP/HP fast
    The healer, who will likely run out of MP fast and thus won't be able to do much healing nor DPSing
    Your co-dps - as a ninja they'll be spamming high TP cost aoe skills, and will run out of TP fast

    Sorry to say this but I'd have called you out on that as well :/
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    Last edited by Spiroglyph; 08-31-2017 at 03:13 AM.

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    Well, I always played this way and does not seem to interfere too much. For example, doing Lost Canals of Uznair with 2 friends and we finish last week. Was warrior, white mage and me as bard (only 1 dps in party). And I always use Tactician and Refresh for help MP/TP of party members, besides Palisade and Nature's Minne on tank :/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zefiris View Post
    Well, I always played this way and does not seem to interfere too much. For example, doing Lost Canals of Uznair with 2 friends and we finish last week. Was warrior, white mage and me as bard (only 1 dps in party). And I always use Tactician and Refresh for help MP/TP of party members, besides Palisade and Nature's Minne on tank :/
    But you were with your friends. Your friends know how you play so they don't mind. But if this was a regular pug party and I noticed, I would've called you out--politely that is-- and suggest you to do more aoe moves. Also, the Lost Canals are different content than expert.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    Healing DRK is literally... the same since ShB. The reason why people think it's a meme to heal nowadays because DRK receives very little to no buff to their sustainability vs 3 other tanks getting something useful. If you're capable of healing DRK back in ShB (or any tanks), then you'll heal EW DRK just fine.

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    Lyrai_Celestine's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zefiris View Post
    I was doing roulette expert now as bard and a ninja started to complain about I was not using Quick Nock. Well, particularly prefer to put dot in each one of enemies and to use Rain of Death when available. As I foresaw that I was going to be kicked of instance, only said Sorry and leaves by own wish.
    Ideally, imo, it's better to give two DoTs to only two or three mobs before starting to spam Quick Nock with Mage's Ballad active. The reason for this is the fact that you have to spend a whole GCD for each DoT. This way you can do some massive damage without having to sacrifice your AoE burst. The keyword here is a good balance.

    Quote Originally Posted by bounddreamer View Post
    Just here to say some duty finder parties are an absolute delight. And that kind of run is why I always join in progress. You can find some real gems in your fellow players.
    I'm the kind of person who likes to join in-progress parties as tanks & healers. Everytime this comes up I know that they are in distress and needs a good player to fill in the spot. Rest assured, everyone! Your tank / healer is in good hands. As always, whenever I come in, "I am here to help!" even before I became a Mentor.
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    Last edited by Lyrai_Celestine; 08-31-2017 at 10:54 AM.

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    Lockey Breezewalker
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    Did a temple of the fist earlier, warrior kept mass pulling without using cooldowns, kicked the healer with the help of his FC buddy. I left right after.


    Learn to tank before blaming others.
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    Ren Luxada
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    Zodiark
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    Quote Originally Posted by lockey_breezewalker View Post
    Did a temple of the fist earlier, warrior kept mass pulling without using cooldowns, kicked the healer with the help of his FC buddy. I left right after.


    Learn to tank before blaming others.
    Same Problem, same dungeon....Wiped on trash mob right before boss as WAR pulled EVERYTHING up to the locked door of the boss room and he was super-squishy so I'd popped Benediction and Tetra on him already, had a regen up and I just didn't have the spellspeed to outheal/negate the damage he was taking. Tank apologised and paced trash second time and we managed the first boss.... then proceeds to mass pull everything up to the mob with the bear where the mini doblyns/coblyns spawn??... They aggro'd onto me because I was healing him, but he didn't attempt to grab them quickly so I got stunned, he provokes them, I have 5 second stun on me soo.... WIPE.

    I wasn't feeling too good so I dropped out silently... not my finest moment tbh but I wasn't in the mood for an argument and sometimes it is better to admit to yourself that a run isn't going to end well if you don't feel at your best and there's already been some issues. I felt for the dps players since they tried to zerg all of it down as fast as possible but nvm. I've had massive trash-pullers all week this week too, and normally I don't mind big pulls because I can handle them on both WHM and AST... but the pulls this week have just been on another level of bad decision making.
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    Last edited by SixtyLove; 09-01-2017 at 08:31 AM.

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    Ekhi Ysengrim
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    Me two years ago: Oh, Shikuchi doesn't make you immune to ground AoEs.
    Me five minutes ago: Wonder if I can Onslaught through this minefield?
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    Cassandra Solidor
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heliantheae View Post
    Me two years ago: Oh, Shikuchi doesn't make you immune to ground AoEs.
    Me five minutes ago: Wonder if I can Onslaught through this minefield?
    Funny thing about that. You can Onslaught through Black Holes in both Normal and Savage, provided you clip all the way through. Our WAR tried it for giggles. The game thinks you're still at your starting spot until you connect with the target. It's rarely ever worth doing but no less ridiculous.
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    MoonFluff's Avatar
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    Meyu Chelewae
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    Ok I'm glad I'm not going crazy. It helps me to type it out here so I'm less stressed about it, because for some reason these thing stress me out a lot. :S
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