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  1. #10071
    Player
    Lilseph's Avatar
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    Shadow Link
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    Mateus
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by ZaveidAveid View Post
    Was running the Aery a long time ago, had a MCH, no big deal. However they were running the Aery with a level 45 weapon, and couldn't understand why we wouldn't make the DPS check on final boss. :V
    That reminds me, I think it was this Monday. I queue up as DRG for level 50 roulette and I get Sastasha HM. So, the tank was doing small pulls at first, but healer and the two of us DPS went ahead looking for more. The tank started to follow us. So, the guys was 1k of HP ahead of me but I didn't check his gear. We get to the first boss and both the BRD and myself go ham.

    I get aggro.

    Checking our emnity bars, I see I'm first and the bard is second, then a good chunk after is the PLD. Well, maybe he lagged or something or did a very bad opener. But nope, I see FoF, the str debuff on the boss. Ok, the boss kills me, kills the bard, nukes the healer and finally the PLD. We go in again: The same, I get aggro, we all die again.

    Out of curiosity, I check his gear: Ilvl 36 weapon, Ilvl 38ish accs, few level 50 pieces. I advice the tank to get better gear, even buying it from NPCs. The BRD gives him a couple of ideas and so the healer, how he can improve his ilvl. The tank decides by himself that he should leave so we could get a better tank. I must admit, that made me feel guilty, but he was right.

    Since I main tank, I decide to leave the instance and re-queue roulette in progress as a tank. I do so but... I GET IN AMDAPOR KEEP NM INSTEAD, in progress!!! So I was honest with them: "Guys, I queued up to help another party but I ended up here. " Well, they also needed my help, so I decided to stay and help them complete the dungeon, since the healer was new and he wanted to clear. The run was smooth, some jokes here and there, we get a clear and everything is gucci.
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  2. #10072
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    Mysterysword's Avatar
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    Character
    Siesta Fiesta
    World
    Coeurl
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 80
    A long, long time ago, when I was but a wee sproutling THM, I thought to myself, "Let's check out what healing is like!" and took myself to Gridania, and signed up with the Conjurer's Guild. So, of course, it was on CNJ that I first taught myself how to heal, stance-dance, and DPS. And then little CNJ-me became big WHM-me.

    And then I grew up and unlocked AST and SCH, which were both approximately 20000 times more fun and complex to play, than WHM. WHM fell by the wayside for me, I kept it geared and levelled, but extremely low-priority.

    But, as 3.xx draws to a close and WHM as we know it will be changed forever, I felt... nostalgia. A longing to hearken back to those simple days when I was but a little CNJ, running around the forest floor, learning how to flip on and off a switch. So I brushed the dust off my cane, put on my finest medic gear, and queued up as WHM for Trials Roulette.

    Immediately, I'm dumped into Zurvan, which I've only done once before, as a DPS. So, never as a healer. But, that was fine, I can adjust and it didn't seem too stressful for healers.

    Guess what? It wasn't! Sure, the MT came close to dying a couple of times and it seemed like the other WHM never cast a single regen, but nobody died in that run and I even managed to throw out some DPS!

    BUT, I didn't maximise my DPS as healer because I actually spent time out of Cleric Stance healing, so clearly I'm a worthless piece of shit who should be kicked.
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  3. #10073
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    Lunaxia's Avatar
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    Ashe Sinclair
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    Phoenix
    Main Class
    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Mysterysword View Post
    snark
    Could this be any more passive-aggressive, lol.

    Where have I said that healing is bad? Where have I said stance-dancing is bad? Where have I said those players who constantly DPSed were even any good?

    I said I appreciate players who do try push their DPS up-time. I said I value effort and making mistakes over standing around doing nothing for long periods of time. Obviously, a good healer heals when needed then does damage in their down time.

    I can't believe I actually have to spell this out.
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  4. #10074
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    Smol's Avatar
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    Character
    Pamama Au'lait
    World
    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by KisaiTenshi View Post


    Four people died to soloable content? ಠ_ಠ

    How the hell did the party not think to heal themselves?

    JUST UGH.
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    Last edited by Smol; 06-15-2017 at 01:50 AM.

  5. #10075
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    Aramina's Avatar
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    Ahnohla Mujuuk
    World
    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Lunaxia View Post
    Could this be any more passive-aggressive, lol.

    Where have I said that healing is bad? Where have I said stance-dancing is bad? Where have I said those players who constantly DPSed were even any good?

    I said I appreciate players who do try push their DPS up-time. I said I value effort and making mistakes over standing around doing nothing for long periods of time. Obviously, a good healer heals when needed then does damage in their down time.

    I can't believe I actually have to spell this out.
    I think the problem is a mistake is usually doing something a little too late then doing it better the next time. It's not doing the exact same thing multiple times. That's no longer an accident, that is an on purpose.
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  6. #10076
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    Lunaxia's Avatar
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    Ashe Sinclair
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    Phoenix
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    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Aramina View Post
    I think the problem is a mistake is usually doing something a little too late then doing it better the next time. It's not doing the exact same thing multiple times. That's no longer an accident, that is an on purpose.
    They over-DPSed to sabotage the party then healed them back through the mess? Sounds a little counter-intuitive.

    No, clearly I'm a troll who thinks healers should be kicked for daring to heal, despite the same people agreeing in a previous post where I was saying the exact same thing lol. I should be perma-banned and repent for my sins. (=゚ω゚)ノ #regenisfornoobs
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  7. #10077
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    Aramina's Avatar
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    Ahnohla Mujuuk
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    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Lunaxia View Post
    They over-DPSed to sabotage the party then healed them back through the mess? Sounds a little counter-intuitive.

    No, clearly I'm a troll who thinks healers should be kicked for daring to heal, despite the same people agreeing in a previous post where I was saying the exact same thing lol. I should be perma-banned and repent for my sins. (=゚ω゚)ノ #regenisfornoobs

    Holy moses, I never said anything like that. The tanks in the story died multiple times from not being healed. Letting a tank die once is a mistake, letting them die again for the same reason (not healing them) is not a mistake. It is CHOOSING to not heal them even though you have already been shown what will happen if you don't.
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  8. #10078
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    Lunaxia's Avatar
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    Ashe Sinclair
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    Phoenix
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    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Aramina View Post
    snip
    Well, it's one or the other. It's deliberate or it's a mistake. If they didn't intend for it to happen or didn't want it to, it's a mistake. They overestimated how much time they had, they assumed the other healer would get it (I often see wires get crossed between WHM/ AST), they thought the tank would mitigate with HG/ heal, etc. etc. Clearly they're not very good at timing.
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  9. #10079
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    Dreggit's Avatar
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    Ul'Dah
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    Helfgrin Dreggit
    World
    Famfrit
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 90
    In my final duty I was call a cheezit. I asked why and they simply said, "you know why." I'll never know why but it was funny and the run was fun
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  10. #10080
    Player
    Aramina's Avatar
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    Ahnohla Mujuuk
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    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 90
    Once is a mistake, twice is a pattern, nevermind any more after that. /shrug
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