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    Faliandra's Avatar
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    Lumielle Whisperwind
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    did lvling roulette yesterday on my brd with my friend who was tanking and ended up in sohm al normal.

    Had a leafy whm healer who struggled with the big pulls. she kept us alive but her mp was drained a lot from merely spamming Cure II and nothing else.

    So i thought id give her a piece of advice to help.

    I dropped 2-3 lines and immediately after she took penalty and left the dungeon...the other random dps followed her and left too.

    o_O

    and now,if youn think I was being rude, this is what I said:



    anything that follows after my "lol" is just my reaction to my friend after they left.
    As theres only me and my friend showing up in the chatlog, theres no need to censor any names.


    I dont know... is it because I didnt put enough happy smilies and hearts that I was perceived as possibly rude and hostile?
    We'll never know.
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    Aegys Herondale
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    Quote Originally Posted by Faliandra View Post
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    When I read your screenshot, while I agree you were being helpful and not hostile, your message came out more like a command than a suggestion. I think that if you added an "if" to the "put up Medica II..." message so that it becomes "if you put Medica II and Regen..." it would play out more like a suggestion and they may not have taken it too hard. No need for smilies and hearts at all. Again, not your fault or intention. It's a nuance of written communication. Then again, this is just MY perception as I prefer suggestions, not commands when it comes to an interaction with strangers in an online game. NaesakiAshwell is right as well. Some people can't take criticsm.
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    KisaiTenshi's Avatar
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    Kisa Kisa
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    Quote Originally Posted by Faliandra View Post
    did lvling roulette yesterday on my brd with my friend who was tanking and ended up in sohm al normal.

    Had a leafy whm healer who struggled with the big pulls. she kept us alive but her mp was drained a lot from merely spamming Cure II and nothing else.

    So i thought id give her a piece of advice to help.

    I dropped 2-3 lines and immediately after she took penalty and left the dungeon...the other random dps followed her and left too.

    o_O

    and now,if youn think I was being rude, this is what I said:



    anything that follows after my "lol" is just my reaction to my friend after they left.
    As theres only me and my friend showing up in the chatlog, theres no need to censor any names.


    I dont know... is it because I didnt put enough happy smilies and hearts that I was perceived as possibly rude and hostile?
    We'll never know.
    It's more likely they didn't like the way the pulls were being done. They likely had no time to cast regen because of how much damage the Tank was taking. I don't think your advice was actually seen if they left that quickly.

    That said, that's bad advice anyway. You don't use Medica II on trash, because that makes the tank unable to hold enmity. Especially on a big pull.
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    Mia Montblanc
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    Sargatanas
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    Astrologian Lv 94
    Quote Originally Posted by KisaiTenshi View Post
    That said, that's bad advice anyway. You don't use Medica II on trash, because that makes the tank unable to hold enmity. Especially on a big pull.
    ಠ_ಠ

    wat.
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    Vahette Lauclaire
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    Lamia
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    Quote Originally Posted by KisaiTenshi View Post
    That said, that's bad advice anyway. You don't use Medica II on trash, because that makes the tank unable to hold enmity. Especially on a big pull.
    I uh..... huh? I literally just got done leveling WAR with my friends WHM, who uses Medica II. I had zero threat issues from it.
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    kattzkitti's Avatar
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    Mako Hext
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    Siren
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    Quote Originally Posted by KisaiTenshi View Post
    That said, that's bad advice anyway. You don't use Medica II on trash, because that makes the tank unable to hold enmity. Especially on a big pull.
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    Naesaki Ashwell
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    I think its more, regardless of how polite, nice, kind, sincere, genuine etc you are with your advice.

    There will always be people out there who will always react negatively to it, they can't take any form of criticism against their play-style.

    Some people are just very adamant to play how they want regardless of how much it may hinder or ultimately stress them.

    Or that person could have just been an alt troll and was just waiting for someone to call them out so they could leave you in the lurch.
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    Everyone needs an internet hug every now and then.


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    Talya Stormbreaker
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    Not rude and not hostile, but it does come across as a command. When I give advice I tend to frame it in "if you do x....then y will happen" format, e.g. "btw (name), if you put up Regen and Medica II the heals tick over time while you're casting, and they help both with healing and saving your mp. "

    In that way you are providing info and a choice and they can make use of it or not.

    If they still leave, then yeah, they can't take any form of performance feedback.
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    PharisHanasaki's Avatar
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    Sodapop Jam
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    Jenova
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    I've been finding a lot of Paladins and Red Mages who apparently prefer healing than anything else.
    I don't like to overheal so I wait until the tank's HP is around 70% to cast a heal. If I have regen on and my party members are at about 90-95% I won't cast a heal if it's not a boss fight. That's what the regen is for.
    I hate it when stuff takes longer to die because my tank and my dps prefer to heal than do shit.
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    Lumielle Whisperwind
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    eh guys, im sure you only have good intentions by telling me how it comes across, but it wasnt actually meant as a question I was seriously wondering about.
    I dont even care. I just found it funny.

    whether it sounds like a command or not, english is not my native language and i dont exactly have a lot of time to stand still there to properly think and write a well thought out sentence where I can tick off
    a full check-up list to make sure im not offending anyone with. :/

    its really a petty thing to get offended over anyway.
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