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  1. #13051
    Player
    Mesarthim's Avatar
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    Rozemyne Shyahoro
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    Leviathan
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by MoroMurasaki View Post
    *snip*
    I can relate since one time I had a paladin use clemency to such a degree that it was turning my oGCD heals on AST into 100% overheals. He said it was to give me more time to dps which sure there's nothing wrong with that but he apparently got really triggered when I brought it up. Next to last pack of enemies in Skalla and he uses clemency at 80% hp or so (single pull since the second dps wasn't with us for the first pull but he single pulled for the entire remainder of the dungeon even when they caught up), earthly star is about ready to blow up on its own and it turned into a 100% overheal.

    Clemency is helpful when used right. Detrimental if overused.
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  2. #13052
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    Quote Originally Posted by MoroMurasaki View Post

    It certainly isn't a 'clutch heal' if you're simply leaving someone not topped off when there is no incoming damage. Hell, in my example I stated this happening at 70% - if you consider that a clutch heal then I'm not trying to be rude but you are the kind of player I'm complaining about.
    Clutch heals in my eyes are any heals that do not result in the tank dying lol I have a very cavalier mindset when it comes to clutch heals. Though I do wonder where some got the idea good healing is letting the tank get as low as humanly possible before they start to cast a heal. I get trying to get spending as few gcds on heals, but seems some peeps take it to the extreme.
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    Last edited by Awha; 11-29-2017 at 06:33 AM.

  3. #13053
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    SenorPatty's Avatar
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    Vice Shark
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    Coeurl
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    Samurai Lv 100
    The clutxh heal post made me laugh. If that healer wants to go practice clutch heals, the best place to do it is in raids, particularly with people who just started learning the mechs or are derping then. It's the most brutal training any healer will ever get. Nothing gets quite clutch when you only have a few seconds to make a healing related decision count. If you ever decided to raise SMN first because you know your dead cohealer had just used its mp mgmt cds before he died and the SMN has access to aetherflow and mana shift, congratulations: you just became a clutch healing master.

    Its an extreme example, I know but the difference here is that the healer in DF is the one creating the circumstances for training in clutch healing. The real training is done when you're constantly subjected to clusterbomb situations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    Healing DRK is literally... the same since ShB. The reason why people think it's a meme to heal nowadays because DRK receives very little to no buff to their sustainability vs 3 other tanks getting something useful. If you're capable of healing DRK back in ShB (or any tanks), then you'll heal EW DRK just fine.

  4. #13054
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    Zeonsilt's Avatar
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    Evan Lionheart
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    Cerberus
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    Machinist Lv 70
    I guess i learned an important lesson in Solo Duty Finder.
    Don't leave Justice to the people, if they don't know how to use it.
    Goddamn meatgrinder.

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    MCH/BRD/PLD


  5. #13055
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    Kahnom's Avatar
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    Arlizz Teirez
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    Jenova
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    Monk Lv 90
    What the hell is “clutch heal” ?
    Struggle to heal or something ?
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  6. #13056
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    TheAngelneer's Avatar
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    S'vhele Cottl
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    Siren
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    Monk Lv 70
    Boy oh boy! It has been a while since I met one of the fabled 0 DPS healers.

    I have been doing Expert roulettes as a DRK for quite a while now and when you are tanking it is easy to note if the DPS is low or healing output is subpar.

    Roulette threw us into Ala Mhigo and I soon notice stuff is taking a while to die, and even though our healer is a WHM I can't see a single Aero DoT marker on mobs and not even getting slightly annoyed by how the stun from Holy doesn't sinergize well with the DRK kit.

    I was not really in the mood to start arguing now since my plan was to just be done with the roulette and call it a day, so I was just going to let it slide.

    Until the WHM decided to call out the RDM for taking to much damage from AoEs. By now, after countless Healer DPS debates we know how much downtime a non-DPSing healer has, specially since I was doing a good job with rotating cooldowns, using TBN and DA + AD. This is how the conversation went:







    Afterwards we got a great WHM that was instantly pulverizing stuff with Aero III and Holy, finished the dungeon with no problems. When I got out I decided to look at the contacts list and found out the healer that got kicked is from my server lol, and apparently the other DPS, that remained silent for the whole thing, is also from Siren. In fact, they are from the same FC, probably queued together for that. I still find it a bit funny that he decided against dropping out of the dungeon with no penalty while we were still looking for a replacement healer (but hey, maybe he/she agrees with me, idk).
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    Last edited by TheAngelneer; 11-29-2017 at 01:53 PM.

  7. #13057
    Player Mhaeric's Avatar
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    Mhaeric Llystrom
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    Balmung
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    Red Mage Lv 97
    Quote Originally Posted by Kahnom View Post
    What the hell is “clutch heal” ?
    Struggle to heal or something ?
    A clutch heal is a heal at the last minute or a heal that turns around a bad situation. When something is "clutch" in slang terms it means doing that something under extreme pressure or as that deciding moment between winning and losing.
    https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=clutch

    Examples:
    "Man, that healer LB3 that saved us was so clutch!"
    "Do you mind using your cooldowns, please? I'm having to clutch heal most of the time and it's stressing me out."
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    Last edited by Mhaeric; 11-29-2017 at 02:05 PM.

  8. #13058
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    AlyssaWildheart's Avatar
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    Alistair Wildheart
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    Cactuar
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    Astrologian Lv 65
    I tanked Sastasha on my leveling war and got an awful healer. I'm starting to think I have a curse or something- perfectly good parties all day but every time I tank the universe is like NOPE.

    So I'm leveling a character for each class so I have to suffer leveling 15 times plus an extra white mage so 16 times. Im very familiar with these dungeons and almost every situation a party can be. (yes I know you cringed reading that)

    Anyway- I get an astologian who pulls every mob early, in the beginning spammed only helios, then refused to heal me unless my health got to critically low numbers. I main astro so this hurts my very soul to see someone playing so bad or trolling. Then he said in the chat-
    "I think Im scarring the tank" Dude you'd give any tank a heart attack- dont spam heals so all the enemies jump you then barely heal me when I'm almost dead.

    The he states he rarely heals when he plays astro...okay...

    The only good thing is one of the dps was on my side about his bad healing, and we killed the last boss very quick- got three comms in the end.
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    Last edited by AlyssaWildheart; 11-29-2017 at 02:04 PM. Reason: Text was too long

  9. #13059
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    TheAngelneer's Avatar
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    S'vhele Cottl
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    Siren
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    Monk Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by AlyssaWildheart View Post
    Bad AST woes
    I must admit that since I started leveling AST (level 67 now), I'm guilty of letting tanks fall to super low health % in the early dungeons. But that is just because Essential Dignity is super OP on the early game and will get a tank from ~20% health to full, with a super short cooldown too.

    Some runs of Sastasha/Tam-Tara/Copperbell I can even get away with using only ED and even skipping healing on some trash packs. Depends on how fast stuff is dying and if the tanks bother with cooldowns.
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  10. #13060
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    Kahnom's Avatar
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    Arlizz Teirez
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    Jenova
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    Monk Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Mhaeric View Post
    A clutch heal is a heal at the last minute or a heal that turns around a bad situation. When something is "clutch" in slang terms it means doing that something under extreme pressure or as that deciding moment between winning and losing.
    https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=clutch

    Examples:
    "Man, that healer LB3 that saved us was so clutch!"
    "Do you mind using your cooldowns, please? I'm having to clutch heal most of the time and it's stressing me out."
    Sounds like Desperately heal to me.
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