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    Quote Originally Posted by MoroMurasaki View Post
    More of a "tales from multiple DFs lately" but...
    Eh, to be honest, I heal myself on PLD because if I see the healer DPSing, I want to give him more time to do so. I know they have offcds but I don't know if they have them ready. So, I'm totally sure than a SCH/AST/WHM DPSing will do more damage than my Total Eclipse spam, speciallly when I'm running out of TP. And yes, sometimes I start my cast at 60% or so, because by the time the cast is done, I probably took more damage. The moment I don't do that, is when I get a full-time healer that removed their DPS skills from their hotbars.

    The same way, when I play SCH, I got PLDs that heal themselves and I'm like "k, let's use that extra time and MP for some extra deeps". So it's a good thing from my perspective.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lilseph View Post
    Eh, to be honest, I heal myself on PLD because if I see the healer DPSing, I want to give him more time to do so. I know they have offcds but I don't know if they have them ready. So, I'm totally sure than a SCH/AST/WHM DPSing will do more damage than my Total Eclipse spam, speciallly when I'm running out of TP. And yes, sometimes I start my cast at 60% or so, because by the time the cast is done, I probably took more damage. The moment I don't do that, is when I get a full-time healer that removed their DPS skills from their hotbars.


    The same way, when I play SCH, I got PLDs that heal themselves and I'm like "k, let's use that extra time and MP for some extra deeps". So it's a good thing from my perspective.
    I specifically stated that my issue with this practice did not lie with a PLD using clemency to heal themself during a large pull as I have superior AoE on any of the 3 healers. If we are talking about single target though there is no way for a healer to outdps a tank if both are playing at a similar skill level with a similar focus on DPS, short of the burst a WHM can put out with a PoM+Cleric combo which doesn't last forever.

    Basically it might be intended as a nice gesture by that tank but I think we're all trying to get through the majority of our roulettes as quickly as possible it is definitively inefficent for a PLD (much less a RDM) to stop damage on a boss to top themselves off.

    Quote Originally Posted by Awha View Post
    I do not heal, so I do not know if clutch heals is something one practices but geez I would think that is something you do with someone you know, not a random tank in the DF.
    It certainly isn't a 'clutch heal' if you're simply leaving someone not topped off when there is no incoming damage. Hell, in my example I stated this happening at 70% - if you consider that a clutch heal then I'm not trying to be rude but you are the kind of player I'm complaining about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MoroMurasaki View Post

    It certainly isn't a 'clutch heal' if you're simply leaving someone not topped off when there is no incoming damage. Hell, in my example I stated this happening at 70% - if you consider that a clutch heal then I'm not trying to be rude but you are the kind of player I'm complaining about.
    Clutch heals in my eyes are any heals that do not result in the tank dying lol I have a very cavalier mindset when it comes to clutch heals. Though I do wonder where some got the idea good healing is letting the tank get as low as humanly possible before they start to cast a heal. I get trying to get spending as few gcds on heals, but seems some peeps take it to the extreme.
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    Last edited by Awha; 11-29-2017 at 06:33 AM.