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  1. #1441
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    Dogempire's Avatar
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    Okami Amaterasuu
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    Faerie
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 100
    First time running a dungeon as the tank, dps keeps pulling, I tell them I need to recharge my tp and to wait.

    They say they don't care and it's not their job to care since they're dps and their job is easy.

    Needless to say I left when they pulled a boss.
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  2. #1442
    Player MeiUshu's Avatar
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    Uldah
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    Sophia Sormanu
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 80
    A4, me SCH, we wiped a couple of times before tank became insulting towards both healers because we couldnt heal HER. So after a couple of insults and me being who I am I had to tell her a few truth and to a couple of dps too.

    Me and the other healer had to eat ALL the bubbles that were heading our ways or collect them on their way and of course heal ourselves thus meaning less Healing for them even with Eos on obey was impossible, none of the dps did bother. DPS had two / three rays none bothered to remove and they died by *overcharge* despite us trying to keep them alive. With full force EOS I couldnt keep the MT alive, meanwhile keeping myself up due to healer debuff and ordering Eos to go and heal the tank, because well she was taking wayyyyyy too much damages. DPS came close to us healers when having debuff on and died. All of this of course the fault of both healers.

    After all this and a few wipes, the only answer of the tank was *deal with it in A4S is worse*..frankly who cares of A4S, if I wanted that I would have gone there. I told the tank that surely it would be easier to keep them alive if instead of thinking to A4S, they would just think of A4 and do what is supposed to be done, so that healers can get to heal and not play DPS while having to heal themselves vs Healing the party.

    We, both healers, got kicked for not bowing to her majesty and vassals, cant say I am sad about that.
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    Last edited by MeiUshu; 01-21-2016 at 12:52 AM.

  3. #1443
    Player
    Kindread's Avatar
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    Soj Ourn
    World
    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 19
    I'm new to FFXIV (account was from beta, hence the creation date). My wife is rolling heals and I am running as a tank, as usual.

    We've done up the the Toto-Rak dungeon and have had WONDERFUL experiences with the other 2 PUG members.

    I have a macro I think when I first enter the dungeon saying that "Heals and Tank are new to the dungeon, please bare with us and give us any constructive criticism you can think of!"

    We've made quite a few friends over the last couple weeks (we play pretty casual but run at least one dungeon a night), and become better players for it. So far the community we've had has been very helpful and competent.
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  4. #1444
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    ardrej's Avatar
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    Noir Black
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    Leviathan
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by MeiUshu View Post
    it would be easier to keep them alive if instead of thinking to A4S, they would just think of A4 and do what is supposed to be done, so that healers can get to heal and not play DPS while having to heal themselves vs Healing the party.
    This. People thinks that just because they "survived" savage, they can farm normal ignoring all mechanics just because is easier.
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  5. #1445
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    dekal's Avatar
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    Alexes D'kal
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 66
    Quote Originally Posted by ardrej View Post
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    The problem is that most people that already cleared hardcore/raids in game got so accustomed to the group they are playing with that they forget that they need to play in a different style or plan/coordinate before pulling. Those people tend to play horrible with random people cuz they don't know how to interact with others.

    I was in a party where I got a SMN playing as melee DPS -standing beside or behind the tank-, the other dpsdps, blm, was a bit far yet close enough to get the aoe dmg ( all this was in the vault dungeon) and the tank would DPS one mob at a time and let the SMN steal the aggro and the SMN would stop doing her dots to kill the one or ones on her. There were times the tank would eat aoes, too. I remember when I said brb and the tank "didn't read" the party chat ./swt and went ahead and pull the mobs.
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  6. #1446
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    Malicewolf's Avatar
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    Fohl Hakuko
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    Goblin
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by LDR View Post
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    Oh Jeez, sounds horrible. I will say this about NIN though. I went about a month without playing it and when I played it again... dear lord. I did not remember any combos. I was throwing out all sorts of wrong things. Tried doing Huton. Got Doton on a very mobile boss (doh). Let's do suiton! Crap, I got Huton! I already have Huton on! It's hard to remember on the go when you've been away from it for a bit :P Not to excuse the NIN in your group entirely. He REALLY shoulda been goad'ing and using shade walker and smokescreen. I fear at the thought that maybe they didn't even pick them up *shudder*.

    And ironically, I tanked PharosHM yesterday with my FC mates. Murphy's law got me. 1st boss, my controller got warning it was dying (ps4 user here). I hit my marco combo and try to switch it real quick. As I'm switching, I see the 1st corruption is on me T-T. I try to get to a bird or spider in time. It didn't happen. My FC leader was like, "For SHAME!!" to me. Rest went ok (not great, but things were fine) until final boss. Ugh. So I usually deal with both the purple bombs when they come out on the last boss (forgot names). I hit one back, then hit the other back and toward the other one. Keep going till the both are next to each other making it easy to contain. Did this just fine. Then lag. I used CoS to hit both back at the same time. But since my game decided lag. Both went flying toward the grey bombs. Like, smack on top of them. Bombs blow. UGH. Honestly, I didn't realize it was lag at this point. I was just like, "WTF! I swear I hit them in time to be knocked the other way!". FC mates shrug it off and we go to do again. Then I notice it. The lag. Oh god. The lag. Next pull, I saw I did CoS. But my CoS was still up and able to be used. Huh. CoS again. Uh, still available. Oh no. Things freeze up. I try spamming out my combos anyways. A minute goes by with nothing moving. I'm waiting for the game to boot me. Nope. Next thing I know, I see a billion things happening at the speed of light. Ending with a huge explosion and me on the floor. I apologize and tell them sorry for the lag. Ironically, one of my FC mates right after said, "Sorry, I'm not doing great tonight"
    "Oh, I mean, yea, I'm lagging too".

    xD About 5 minutes go by and I still haven't spawned because of my lag. Eventually the game settled for me and we got through it though. It was a mess, but we all did the thanavian dance in front of the last boss in skimpy gear for a few minutes.
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  7. #1447
    Player Iagainsti's Avatar
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    Iagainsti Kilamanjiro
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    Zalera
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    Marauder Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by MeiUshu View Post
    A4, me SCH, we wiped a couple of times before tank became insulting towards both healers because we couldnt heal HER. So after a couple of insults and me being who I am I had to tell her a few truth and to a couple of dps too.

    Me and the other healer had to eat ALL the bubbles that were heading our ways or collect them on their way and of course heal ourselves thus meaning less Healing for them even with Eos on obey was impossible, none of the dps did bother.
    This makes me cringe like the overlooking of A1's mechanics; the boss does not move, and the aoe missle only hits MT every 30 secs, actually opposite the orbs in phase 1. The MT can leave the boss to deal with 1 set of orbs, while the OT deals with the other. During Q, again MT can deal with 1 set of orbs. Usually, and if Im lucky, as MT the orbs spawn close enuff, Ill tell whoever is targeted to position me between them and the orbs and Ill just Holmgang it without leaving Deliverance, pop Second Wind and Thrill to help the healer after I suck up 3 orbs. Save the Vengeance and the Equilibrium pop for the second set.
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  8. #1448
    Player Fluestergras's Avatar
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    Ul'dah
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    Aru Tirauland
    World
    Shiva
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 100
    So, I finally decided to tank A1, I was running it on paladin. During the first run, the other tank, a dark knight, was new to the duty, so I maintanked and explained everything I knew (which is pretty much what I read in this thread xD). Faust was fine, then we reached the Opressor, I told the OT that I'm gonna tank the boss south and that they shall provoke it away from me as soon as 0.5 appears so I can take 0.5 and hold it north. The provoke came a bit late, but it worked, hooray. Unfortunately the DPS was shittier than shit, Alarums died but at the wrong places to at least one rocket exploded after every single add phase. And the DPS was low. Really low. Even below low, I mean, I could use Divine Veil three times and Hallowed Ground twice. I have never seen the enrage in A1 before today, but here it was. At 26%. It was a shame. We had no chance but to call it.

    During the second run, I tanked 0.5 again, but nobody attacked it, so 1.0 dropped to 10% while 0.5 was at 35%. Then the other tank, another dark knight, came to 0.5 to attack it, 1.0 following them, gathering damage up stacks and wiping us. Uhm.

    Tanking this could be a cakewalk if things would work properly >.<
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  9. #1449
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    Ashkendor Zahirr
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Iagainsti View Post
    This makes me cringe like the overlooking of A1's mechanics; the boss does not move, and the aoe missle only hits MT every 30 secs, actually opposite the orbs in phase 1. The MT can leave the boss to deal with 1 set of orbs, while the OT deals with the other. During Q, again MT can deal with 1 set of orbs. Usually, and if Im lucky, as MT the orbs spawn close enuff, Ill tell whoever is targeted to position me between them and the orbs and Ill just Holmgang it without leaving Deliverance, pop Second Wind and Thrill to help the healer after I suck up 3 orbs. Save the Vengeance and the Equilibrium pop for the second set.
    I just pick up the orbs as healer. Scholar is great at it. It's always fun when people aren't paying attention and go run over there for them anyway though. I'll be standing in the path of the orbs ready to explode them and self-heal in a controlled manner only to have a tank or DPS come over and trample through the place anyway, exploding orbs on themselves in quick succession and catching me in the splash damage. News flash: if you make both of us take a bunch of damage, keeping myself alive takes priority over keeping a DPS alive so I am going to heal myself first. If you die to the orbs in the meantime, that's your problem. :3
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    Last edited by Ashkendor; 01-21-2016 at 03:52 AM.

  10. #1450
    Player Iagainsti's Avatar
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    Iagainsti Kilamanjiro
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    Zalera
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    Marauder Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Ashkendor View Post
    I just pick up the orbs as healer. Scholar is great at it. It's always fun when people aren't paying attention and go run over there for them anyway though. I'll be standing in the path of the orbs ready to explode them and self-heal in a controlled manner only to have a tank or DPS come over and trample through the place anyway, exploding orbs on themselves in quick succession and catching me in the splash damage. News flash: if you make both of us take a bunch of damage, keeping myself alive takes priority over keeping a DPS alive so I am going to heal myself first. If you die to the orbs in the meantime, that's your problem. :3
    Funny that you mention this, usually it's that random bard who takes unnecessary damage when I'm soaking up orbs xD Everytime I just shake my head
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