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    Silly question: Does Alphinaud and Alisae possess the echo

    It's been a while, and I don't remember.
    Thank you in advance
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    No, they don't. Outside of the WoL, Ysayle I believe is the only other individual who was confirmed to have it. I read some of the other Scions did, but nothing confirmed.
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    I don't believe so, no. At least not Alphinaud.

    Quote Originally Posted by Delily View Post
    No, they don't. Outside of the WoL, Ysayle I believe is the only other individual who was confirmed to have it. I read some of the other Scions did, but nothing confirmed.
    Ysayle, Warrior of Light and Minfilia also definitely has the Echo.
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    thanks a bunch you guys!
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    As far as confirmed Echo users, no, neither Alphinaud nor Alisae possesses it. The player, Minfilia, and Ysayle were the only named characters so far that we know of. That being said, some of the other pre-Garlean invasion Scion members had the echo as well, as the point of the Scions was to grow their ranks with members of similar abilities. That's part of the reason you were recruited, and part of the reason Minfilia started the Path of the Twelve to begin with (which was merged with the Sharlayan gang after the Calamity).

    Sadly, many of them were killed by Livia and her lot. Some survived and we can assume that some of them have the Echo, we just don't know who or what since they are unnamed background NPCs at this point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Velox View Post
    As far as confirmed Echo users, no, neither Alphinaud nor Alisae possesses it. The player, Minfilia, and Ysayle were the only named characters so far that we know of. That being said, some of the other pre-Garlean invasion Scion members had the echo as well, as the point of the Scions was to grow their ranks with members of similar abilities. That's part of the reason you were recruited, and part of the reason Minfilia started the Path of the Twelve to begin with (which was merged with the Sharlayan gang after the Calamity).

    Sadly, many of them were killed by Livia and her lot. Some survived and we can assume that some of them have the Echo, we just don't know who or what since they are unnamed background NPCs at this point.
    Actually, Arenvald that's still in the waking sands is an Echo user and survivor of the Garlean massacre in 2.0
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    As far as we know, no. The only people we know for sure to have the Echo is ourselves, Minfilia, and Ysayle. (And the Ascians, of course.)

    Alphinaud hangs back from our confrontation with Ravana specifically because he lacks the Echo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cilia View Post
    Alphinaud hangs back from our confrontation with Ravana specifically because he lacks the Echo.
    And yet... He, and his sister, came face to face with Bahamut and Phoenix... Cid and Alphinaud also got pretty close to Garuda, too... Heck, Alphinaud, Cid, Biggs and Wedge were all on the Enterprise during our confrontation with Bismark... The more I think about that fight actually, the less it makes sense... I guess Bismark is just stupid, because I'd certainly have nom'd the poorly defended Airship first, or started ramming from the side the cannons aren't pointing, or just come up the rear (giggity).

    I guess Primals don't know about the Echo until it interferes with their plans though, and at this point they just see us and figure Tempering wont work, even if it would on the handful of allies we're dragging behind us...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nalien View Post
    I guess Primals don't know about the Echo until it interferes with their plans though, and at this point they just see us and figure Tempering wont work, even if it would on the handful of allies we're dragging behind us...
    It's pretty much implied at this point that either A) The Warrior of Light is such a threat that they simply do not have the time or aether to waste on attempting to force us under their will (remember, Ifrit had to really wind up to even attempt to temper the Warrior of Light), or B) the main party that accompanies the Warrior of Light into Trials and (small) Raids is made up of people who share the Echo, after all, we saw very early on that there are numerous Warriors of Light, all on their own journey. It's what allows us roleplay being one of the chosen ones and not have it break lore in half, and if your character can prove they've done something truly heroic (Dreadwyrm equipment, extreme primal weapons, Gordian equipment, ect), I'm one to believe them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nalien View Post
    I guess Bismark is just stupid, because I'd certainly have nom'd the poorly defended Airship first, or started ramming from the side the cannons aren't pointing, or just come up the rear (giggity).
    In all fairness, Bismarck is actually the most primitive Primal we have encountered so far in terms of behaviour. He truly seemed to be nothing but an animal in terms of thoughts and actions, just one made out of ether, so his lack of tactical thinking is somewhat explainable.
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