Summoners Overpowered in PvP

[Maxwell]

Much respect to anyone going melee DPS these cause I've almost given up on them simply because of the SMN issue.

Counter example:

Top kills are mostly melees and myself on top as DRG.

Sounds like you guys play this thing solo >_>. There is a good level of meta game training/mastery that needs to be applied to survive as any class.

I get my kills from cocky and impatient players hungry for high K/D ratios. Now that SMNs have burst damage they are the cockiest, most impatient and wreckless players i see and they are is a gold mine for me on DRG. I see SMNs charging a whole freaking front alone trying to get a kill behind the line, only to be murdered seconds later canceling the benefit of that kill had they gotten it. I love cocky and impatient SMNs. Nomnom!

[Stupiduglytaru]

Counter example:

Nom nom melee's

[Srab]

Nom nom melee's

nom nom lalafells's ^^

[Cidolfas86]

Sounds like you guys play this thing solo >_>. There is a good level of meta game training/mastery that needs to be applied to survive as any class.

Your example is the exception and not the rule as shown above. Sounds like your assuming a lot about peoples PvP situations. No amount of skill is gonna help you when you've been targeted by 1-2 SMNs during a retreat and they nail you in the middle of a pack. There's no real mystery to surviving as a DPS in Seize short of either playing ranged DPS, making sure you have DEF/Zoning CDs, or making sure your camping your present healer at all times plus never separating from the pack.

[TiaHeart]

Counter example:

Top kills are mostly melees and myself on top as DRG.

Sounds like you guys play this thing solo >_>. There is a good level of meta game training/mastery that needs to be applied to survive as any class.

Sounds like rating personal achievements, rare occurances, dominating gc, superior skill over average stastistics. Show stastistics sayin avg melee have better k/d or even dmg done/taken (since this effects how much healin and tankin is actually required/stressed) than casts. Its never news pro anything>scrub other thing talkin balance, but the averarage. I still think smn (easy, bursty, deadly, feverish, ranged actor) > melee. ON AVERAGE. Yes there are great meless and horrible casters, no doubt. Just look at how hard those smns rode dmg wise. They either positioned badly, had gc not playin along or heals slackin. U did awesome, yet they>you by + 100k dealt -60 taken, while havin an easy time. You were fevered likely, they werent? Lol. You felt thats the game you need to screenshot for a forum, adder smn thinks its just monday and they won. Most impressive is that adder smn, not you. You stole kills and received good heals. He rekkt shit while smokin bong.

[Dimitrii]

Just look at how hard those smns rode dmg wise. They either positioned badly, had gc not playin along or heals slackin. U did awesome, yet they>you by + 100k dealt -60 taken, while havin an easy time. You were fevered likely, they werent? Lol. You felt thats the game you need to screenshot for a forum, adder smn thinks its just monday and they won. Most impressive is that adder smn, not you. You stole kills and received good heals. He rekkt shit while smokin bong.

To be fair, you're assumptions are just as baseless as that screenshot lol. You can't tell from the screenshot how many of that dragoons kills were kill steals. The summoner had over 257k dmg but that dmg is much more likely to be overinflated garbage numbers (from sitting there passing around dots on everyone while watching netflix) than the dragoon's 165k. That summoner's numbers are average at best, not impressive.

[kpxmanifesto]

Just look at how hard those smns rode dmg wise. They either positioned badly, had gc not playin along or heals slackin. U did awesome, yet they>you by + 100k dealt -60 taken, while havin an easy time. You were fevered likely, they werent? Lol. You felt thats the game you need to screenshot for a forum, adder smn thinks its just monday and they won. Most impressive is that adder smn, not you. You stole kills and received good heals. He rekkt shit while smokin bong.

I'm surprised you tried to make up a whole story based on some numbers you saw on a screenshot. Did you think anyone would accept your assumptions from the get go?

[TiaHeart]

I'm surprised you tried to make up a whole story based on some numbers you saw on a screenshot. Did you think anyone would accept your assumptions from the get go?

Actually no, i tried typing one of my typical 5000 char responses with a controller and ended up flippin the browser back a page so all got lost. Decided i cba to do it again.I still pick that smn on my team for his numbers +30 -30 on kills, no heal required ever the whole match(!!!), but helping in 1 or 2 node conquers or defenses. Oh he also capped, didnt see x: not saying i wont pick the best blue healer or dragoon. Gj there too. Im usually happy with most smn mates and love beatin nin > mnk > drg as far as open field battles go. Not that i didnt fancy cast beatup, but diving in gets me killed or my heal stressed. Its ok to disagree. I like smn on my team and hate them on nmy. Just like war n ast