Mining botters... (the situation is bleak)

[Adire]

But there's not a lapse in reports? That's what I'm saying. I'm not arguing against the OP, all I'm saying is there's plenty of threads about bots already and the Devs can see them. They're aware of the issue.

Reports aren't available to the public eye for everyone to view. The forums are.

And I know. You stated such in one of your previous posts. We all hate bots, I'm sure. But a cease in complaints cannot lead to anything good, and the ongoing complaints really aren't doing anything bad. If anything, complaints about it encourages SE to do more.

It's not about making SE "aware". It's about letting them know the community's frustration with it, reminding them of the intensity of it, and putting the information that there are bots in the game, and lots of them, into the public eye. Because if that was not happening, there would be much less pressure for SE to do their best to control the problem.

[WinterLuna]

Well I hope SE sort it then because these threads are getting slightly tedious. And as a Dev said themselves, it's just pushing other threads down every time a new one is made. At the same time, I hope SE sort the issue more productively, although it's not as easy as people make it out to be.

[xXRaineXx]

There are 64 servers in total (might have miscounted, correct me if I'm wrong) and just as a statement there are about 5m registered accounts. Let's take this into a theoretical calculation and say about 10% of the accounts are bots/gil spammers. That's 500,000 accounts, roaming endlessly throughout 64 servers.
To observe and report all 64 servers and find the odd cases will take a tremendous amount of time and resources. Even if there is a central data server that monitors all the data that goes on in every server, that still means there will be billions of coded data passing every minute.
Also, not everyone who looks like a bot is a bot. For example, I myself went out and farmed wool way back sometime during 2.0 from Karakuls. I would spend on average 4 hours a day about 2-3 times a week just endlessly farming. Does that make me a bot? No.
Every case needs to be examined, it might just be a person who is really determined to farm, who knows.

[Mycow8me]

I wouldn't doubt they are using stolen accounts. With the whole clickandbuy crap from years ago on ffxiv and other third party hosting of information... There's no way for SE to monitor all secure information. However that doesn't change the fact that stolen accounts are limited and usually require "reactivation" due to inactivity.

[WinterLuna]

I wouldn't doubt they are using stolen accounts. With the whole clickandbuy crap from years ago on ffxiv and other third party hosting of information... There's no way for SE to monitor all secure information. However that doesn't change the fact that stolen accounts are limited and usually require "reactivation" due to inactivity.

Genuine question - wouldn't some bots also be associated with gil sellers? If so, they make more than enough money to buy more accounts, and the problem would lie with players buying gil and not with SE themselves.

[Mycow8me]

Even a RMT company isn't going to rush to spend more money on an account. Not every mining bot is the super RMT company that doesn't mind hashing out the money for another account.

Actually you know what, I'm done with you, feel like commenting to you trivial anyway. Continue being a sheeple.

In other news:
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...s-%28Oct.-2%29

Just noticed this, explains a wave of new bots. Back to reporting I guess, system for reporting still needs work. Unhappy with current reporting system but atleast that post calmed me down a bit. The struggle to not bot is REAL but faith somewhat restored.

[WinterLuna]

Then don't be rude to me, delete my comment and edit yours. Good luck.