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  1. #51
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valesti_Peleiades View Post
    I like to think that there's some sort of middle ground where crafted gear can be desirable for progression, but not overpowered.
    There are really a number of ways they could have done it, but the simplest would be really to just make the current recipes easier to make. If the current gear had required roughly the same amount of effort as it had to reach the crafted DoW/M gear in ARR, it wouldn't have really affected much. i180 is low enough that it wouldn't have been particularly valuable for Savage, what with higher stat caps being unreachable sans Tier V materia and the flattening of secondary stat influence. It would, however, have been a decent alternative to Alex Normal gear if fully melded and a fair substitute for Law gear for those that don't enjoy the hunt grind.

    On the other hand, with the current scarcity of materials, the gear won't be available in ready quantities until sometime in 3.2 most likely, long after it would have had any relevance. At that point, the gear being i190 probably wouldn't have been much of an issue, though this hypothetical is harder to gauge. i190 gear would have likely shifted people's priorities in the early weeks, and crafters in dedicated raiding FCs might have been greatly incentivized to make them prior to making AF and the like.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alahra View Post
    They could, though I think it's unlikely. We've received no indication that they will, and the last we have from Yoshida on the matter states pretty clearly that crafted gear is never really going to be as powerful as it was in ARR.
    Did Yoshida say why?
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  3. #53
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex_Lenderson View Post
    Did Yoshida say why?
    They didn't like how powerful the gear was during the final raid tier, especially. They felt it accelerated progression too much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alahra View Post
    They didn't like how powerful the gear was during the final raid tier, especially. They felt it accelerated progression too much.
    What I've always thought would be cool would be that one slot (difference for each class) would have a crafting BIS. Vast majority of the gear would still be tomes/raids but for that one slot... make a market.
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    If you do that you need to change how raiders earns money. Because at the moment there is nothing built in game. If you dont do anything besides playing doh/dom you get zero money.
    The only way to make decent gils Is by doing sell run. I dont know they should give some rare mats in hardest raid, give some red scrips mats in Alexander savage and boom you solved the rarity issue
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    If you do that you need to change how raiders earns money. Because at the moment there is nothing built in game. If you dont do anything besides playing doh/dom you get zero money.
    The only way to make decent gils Is by doing sell run. I dont know they should give some rare mats in hardest raid, give some red scrips mats in Alexander savage and boom you solved the rarity issue
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lastelli View Post
    15 minutes + 500k gil based on my experience...it usually takes me around 40 minutes and 100k gil since I buy raw materials and then quick synth the intermediate mats.
    Why not send retainers out throughout the week to get the stuff you will need?
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    Quote Originally Posted by blueruckus View Post
    Why not send retainers out throughout the week to get the stuff you will need?
    Because the stuff I need cannot be obtained by retainer's ventures except for maybe 1 material that is quite che anyway.
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    Selen Astraea
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    I give up crafting. Few hours favor grinding and failed twice 2 star crafting. Tsk tsk tsk. T_T
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sollux View Post
    I believe they mainly wanted to discourage omni-crafting for the high-end items so they aren't popular in the first month and then dead the next 5 because everyone can craft everything at that point.
    On my server, last I checked, there were zero i180 crafted combat items on the market board and none in the sale histories I looked at. In 2.5, I was making good Gil selling crafted gear up until around a month before Heavensward. It wasn't dead in 2.5, but it sure is now.
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