Results 1 to 10 of 331

Hybrid View

  1. #1
    Player
    SaitoHikari's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2015
    Posts
    1,281
    Character
    Saito Hikari
    World
    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 100
    The second scenario involved EX roulette yesterday in Neverreap. Warrior tank with two Bards as DPS. The tank tried to do that massive pull before the first boss. Divine Seal heals over time wore off with only one enemy dying, and the tank was taking so much damage even with the heals over time on him that I thought I couldn't safely DPS. Then I decided I'd try to blow open a strategic window by going into Cleric Stance -> Swiftcast Holy and Assize. It backfired. Tank took huge damage and ended up dying a split second before Benediction went off.

    What should I have done in that situation?

    -> Just stick to heal mode anyway?
    -> Maybe used swiftcast Holy without going into Cleric Stance?

    And finally, probably the most important question: Should I REALLY be using Regen that much? I refresh it all the time during fights, but I'm starting to think doing that is a bad thing (it's probably why Titan went after me).

    (This is my last post on this subject, I swear.)
    (0)

  2. #2
    Player
    Normalizer's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2014
    Posts
    170
    Character
    Esmond Rainer
    World
    Odin
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by SaitoHikari View Post
    The second scenario involved EX roulette yesterday in Neverreap. Warrior tank with two Bards as DPS...
    Swiftcast Holy is not instance, it will take about 1-2 sec before it actually hits and stuns the mobs. So if you can't afford to get this 1-2 sec delay in healing, don't swiftcast holy. Beside, if the dps of the party is that low, it may not be wise to go dps mode and holy-chain those mobs (you alone cannot bring them all down, and the fight might take too long that you will go out of mana even without dpsing. Of course it's all situational.)

    If the tank gets a lot of mobs and takes load of dmg, I normally stick to heal only while waiting for DS to be available again. This is also a good opportunity to use Eye for an Eye on tank.
    (0)

  3. #3
    Player
    416to305's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2015
    Posts
    390
    Character
    Psycho Bunny
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by SaitoHikari View Post
    Snip
    I didn't even see the other questions you asked Saito sorry, so let me add my 2 cents. I'm a casual player, I play in bed at night prob an hour every day, so I play a lot according to my friends, am at WHM avg level 190, have done all of Alex normal but I'm not interested in committing to some nightly schedule to do savage. I like to just play and collect tomes upgrade my gear and so on being more casual.

    When you are doing 8 person anything, you should have tons of time to DPS if you want. People don't take damage that fast that 2 healers can't manage as usually one person will still be healing when you flip to DPS and so on. It's a good idea at the start of pulls or bosses to even put a Regen on the tank, and then flip to cleric and then I hit the boss with Aero III, Aero II, and usually Virus when able to. They should not be taking so much damage that you don't have time to do that. Even on trash pulls in dungeons I'd try to get Aero III in as it does good damage and is AoE so hits all mobs in a group!

    The only time I ever find it iffy is in the 4 person stuff especially level 50+ new dungeons when tanks are low geared or pull huge. It seems like sometimes I'm sitting there hitting Cure II over and over trying to keep up. That only ever happens to me on high level 50+ 4 person dungeons. When that happens I try my best, but I figure if the tank is taking SO much damage that I'm literally just sitting there draining my MP pool trying to keep them alive, then I figure that's their issue and not mine. If I can heal Alex 1-4 not have anyone wipe, but then be in Fractal or something and tank is just droping like mad (and assuming I have proper gear of course and don't just scratch by the minimum iLvl) then I know it can't be me. If popping all my cool downs STILL can't keep them alive, then it HAS to be their fault as what else could I possibly do? In hard mode dungeons people want out fast, so they pull huge which is fine as they aren't that hard anymore. It's the new ones, most tanks twink they can still pull massive when usually it's too much.

    Lastly, don't be too worried about Titan HM, it has always been hard and especially now as people aren't really doing it as much unless they are new. The past 2 times I did it I ended up solo healing as the other healer would wipe so many times it wasn't worth raising them. Wastes my MP and they are too weak. Titan is very mechanic heavy, really comes down to knowing and memorizing the fight and knowing what is coming. Where to stack, pre-casting Medica II when he jumps in the air and so on.

    I saw also another post talking about not to spam AoE heals. That was just if your MP is really low, but otherwise you definitely will do AoE otherwise you're wasting MP. It costs more to Cure/Cure II individual people vs Medica unless it's more than 2 or 3 people taking damage, then Medica or Medica II makes sense. Biggest thing to be careful of with Medica II is if its a fight where adds will come, as they will latch right on to you when they spawn, so I try to use it a bit less now.

    Only other thing to say is that as mentioned I'm not hardcore at all, but I never run out of MP or even come close. You have Assize to help, Shroud, and then I even keep a few Hi or Mega Ethers or whatever they are, just in case I really need to get on there. It really just comes down to practice, which you might want to do on low level dungeons. The reason I DPS as much as I can is because leveling WHM almost a year ago pre-50 it was just boring and easy to heal those dungeons, so doing DPS would only help get through them faster. So it just feels natural to me now. You'll just learn when it's safe to do so, like someone else mentioned, if you hit the tank with a Regen etc and they seem to be somewhat stable, then sure flip over and Holy spam the mobs if you want. You'll also learn when Holy is best to use, as sometimes you'll use it on 5 mobs and they barely go down, where others are more the quick kill types where Holy just once even takes them to like 40%, where you do it again and take them all out. Just comes down to practice, but keep in mind you're not expected to DPS. So any time things are dicey or rough I just say screw it, better stick to JUST healing just to be on the safe side. Everyone plays differently and my point is, playing just casual the way I do now, I've never had a problem completing Alex 1-4 or most content, so must be doing something right.
    (0)