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    Mimifu Mifu
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iris_BP View Post
    What ilvl? Also, how did you get so much overheal?! using medica II on each pull? My max final dps in Fractal was around 640ish (with ilvl 183). .


    My overall Ilvl is 200 with Ravana's weapon. And for my overheal, it's easy=> Divine seal + Regen + Buble + medica2(I use medicaII against Boss or when the party took too much damage). I wanted to max dps cause we lacked of dps so I just let my hot heal them.


    They were all with I200 weapons with 190-200 gear.
    A lot of dungeon player are just bad or don't want to dps.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ghishlain View Post
    The parse itself is over a 16 minute duration, so it's including all trash pulls in the dungeon. Something like that would highly favour a WHM and their AoE potential and do a disservice towards melee's so it's not an accurate representation of the party DPS on things that matter (bosses). Individual Boss parses are important because it can gauge how well you're doing while dealing with mechanics, adds, etc etc
    The dps against the boss wasn't high neither.

    The first boss: The drg was only 857 dps and I was 754
    The second boss is a bit more tricky cause it depend a lot If I open the door before he groan or not: 745 dps for the drg and 586 for me
    And the last boss was awful cause they took some mine: 693 and 519 for me
    The drg has no excuse. His dps was low. Anw, the Nin was worse and the tank was... special.

    A good Drg can put a lot more dps without problem. Even Against Trash Mob. I, when I play drg, with less gear, put a lot higher dps and I'm just a random Drg.
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    Ghishlain Pyrial
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    Quote Originally Posted by NamoNanamo View Post
    The dps against the boss wasn't high neither.

    The first boss: The drg was only 857 dps and I was 754
    The second boss is a bit more tricky cause it depend a lot If I open the door before he groan or not: 745 dps for the drg and 586 for me
    And the last boss was awful cause they took some mine: 693 and 519 for me
    The drg has no excuse. His dps was low. Anw, the Nin was worse and the tank was... special.

    A good Drg can put a lot more dps without problem. Even Against Trash Mob. I, when I play drg, with less gear, put a lot higher dps and I'm just a random Drg.
    Yeah, that's pretty bad. Also the individual boss analysis is more useful to a player than the dungeon run, so good you made note of that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iris_BP View Post
    This is insane DPS for an AST at this ilvl on a boss fight. I just can't believe you can average 500 dps on for example Waukkeon, unless literally noone is taking damage and playing their best.
    Waukkeon is kind of a different beast altogether, the invul phase removes dots from the equation for a lot of the fight and people who don't avoid him during add phase make healing a giant pita. I usually pull about 300 on this as ast, 450 or so as sch. I was referencing bosses like fractal final boss/first boss, neverreap 2nd boss.

    Fractal 2nd boss kinda sucks because I have to do tubes on groan/1000, and when I run with FC mates they eat the 100 ton swing to get more dps, when I do it with randoms they still pull crap dps and eat it. Still usually 300 or so as ast on this one.

    Neverreap boss 1 it feels like I'm the only one ever going for feathers and 9 times out of 10 the group doesn't kill them all, I get this same feeling as tank when I'm running the bird around to the feathers and dps are still chasing it ignoring them. Since dpsing the feathers down fast=no dotting and finding the bird=no dotting this is also a lower dps fight and usually about 300 or so.

    Quote Originally Posted by 416to305 View Post
    Parsers are against game policy, they aren't allowed to be used. Many of us are on PS4 where you can't use them anyway, so regardless of what one says, it's not expected that you DPS or play a certain way based on it. If it was then they wouldn't be banned by SE and would be on PS4 as well. They aren't going to design a class to be played one way, which can only be maximized by using a tool that's only available to half the player base, as well as being against game rules. Doesn't make sense.
    I don't know about you but I would prefer using a parser that does all the work of adding up everything I did for me so I can work on my rotation on any given boss to maximize my dps potential over tearing the logs apart and placing them into a spreadsheet to manually calculate exactly when to use everything. You don't need a parser to determine the order to do things, it just makes your life about 1000 times easier to have one. Most people who care about improving their dps will either download a parser or if on ps3/4 ask someone that they know parses. Sadly people who care about doing well seem to be in the minority.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gorlioliolio View Post
    I don't know about you but I would prefer using a parser that does all the work of adding up everything I did for me so I can work on my rotation on any given boss to maximize my dps potential over tearing the logs apart and placing them into a spreadsheet to manually calculate exactly when to use everything. You don't need a parser to determine the order to do things, it just makes your life about 1000 times easier to have one. Most people who care about improving their dps will either download a parser or if on ps3/4 ask someone that they know parses. Sadly people who care about doing well seem to be in the minority.
    Sorry that wasn't my point! I absolutely agree a parser is the only way to really improve to some perfect level or whatever if they want to be the absolute best. What my point was is that it's not necessary to use one at all to be a good healer. So if someone is asking for advice on here, I don't think posting statistics helps all that much. My point is that the game isn't designed around people using parsers to improve, it's the total opposite. So just trying to say for any new player that you don't ever have to worry about being THAT extreme to play. I've done all content except savage (only because I have a life and am not going to commit to a weekly schedule to play video games), and I've had no problems and never used a parser once. Just talking about a parser in game can get you banned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 416to305 View Post
    Sorry that wasn't my point! I absolutely agree a parser is the only way to really improve to some perfect level or whatever if they want to be the absolute best. What my point was is that it's not necessary to use one at all to be a good healer. So if someone is asking for advice on here, I don't think posting statistics helps all that much. My point is that the game isn't designed around people using parsers to improve, it's the total opposite. So just trying to say for any new player that you don't ever have to worry about being THAT extreme to play. I've done all content except savage (only because I have a life and am not going to commit to a weekly schedule to play video games), and I've had no problems and never used a parser once. Just talking about a parser in game can get you banned.
    Parsers can actually help show you what damage people are taking, and your over-heal as well, so they do have some use for healers. And was that "I have a life so I don't do Savage" comment really necessary?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mayvee View Post
    Parsers can actually help show you what damage people are taking, and your over-heal as well, so they do have some use for healers. And was that "I have a life so I don't do Savage" comment really necessary?
    You're still not reading what I'm saying. I didn't say they aren't useful, I said they aren't REQUIRED for anything. Someone reading this thread that's new would be under the impression that they have to be hardcore with parsers to play the game well which just isn't true. And not sure I follow you, I have a life and am busy and rarely home only playing in bed before sleep, hence I don't do savage. Everyone has their reasons for doing it or not doing it, but just because you don't like mine doesn't mean I'm going to make up a reason.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 416to305 View Post
    I've done all content except savage (only because I have a life and am not going to commit to a weekly schedule to play video games

    You know that you only need just 4 hour/weeks to do a1/a2s ? Less if your party is good. So it's like running the expert dungeon every day.

    Parser is useful (not mandatory). Like someone said before, when you play Astr, you want to give the best card to the best dps. I want also to improve my DPS even If I'm a healer.
    I want to know who's sleeping and who deserve my heal first.
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    Last edited by NamoNanamo; 10-22-2015 at 03:07 AM.

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    Thea Sitori
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    You know there are statics that just run even two days a week for progression, that isn't a lot of time always needed to commit. You make it sound like the commitment is everyday or something. If you are aiming for world-firsts, surely. But most are mid-to-hardcore that run a few days or more a week.

    Quote Originally Posted by NamoNanamo View Post
    Parser is useful (not mandatory). Like someone said before, when you play Astr, you want to give the best card to the best dps. I want also to improve my DPS even If I'm a healer.
    I want to know who's sleeping and who deserve my heal first.
    Yep, it's good to see what else is going on aside from buffs someone has up to distribute cards. Not to mention it's a normal raid utility, and if the poster has experienced the static raid life they would probably have a different view on the subject.
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