But...I...I don't wanna DPS, I'm a healer...

[DarkerOrange]

There is plenty of content where pretty much all you do is heal, even when you want to dps.

No, no there really isn't, especially if you are a SCH. Eos can solo heal almost anything sub 50 (with 40+ requiring a few heals from you every now and then). Hell, even savage has alot of time for both healers to be in cleric stance.

Ofcourse you are welcome to overheal or sit on your arse doing nothing, but please don't try and pull this 'special snowflake' rubbish. You are not playing as well as you could be, end of.

[Izularia]

I used to play a healer in every other MMORPG I have played before. So, it was natural for me to play a healer in FFXIV as well and started as a Conjurer back then. Well, people started yelling at me for not doing any DPS... when the only thing I wanted to do was to heal. I did not understand why people were angy and so I decided to give up my healing role for a full DPS class.

A few weeks ago, I had the feeling I could give healing another shot and went with Astrologian. I felt like it was way easier to find a good combination of healing and DPSing than it was when I started in January.
Why is it like that? I know the game now, I know when it's ok to stop healing and when there's no risk of letting the tank die.
I did not know anything about it when I played all these dungeons the first time (as a Conjurer/Whitemage). The only thing I could think of was healing, that's it, I was insecure and afraid of making mistakes.

So, what is it what I want to say?
If you don't feel like dpsing as a healer, don't do it. It's not neccessary in any normal dungeon. But if you want to, go ahead, there's no problem with doing that
I don't know how it is in raids and stuff, I'm no raider and never will be, so I can only talk about "normal" content.

[MentheusDreyar]

No, no there really isn't, especially if you are a SCH. Eos can solo heal almost anything sub 50 (with 40+ requiring a few heals from you every now and then). Hell, even savage has alot of time for both healers to be in cleric stance.

Ofcourse you are welcome to overheal or sit on your arse doing nothing, but please don't try and pull this 'special snowflake' rubbish. You are not playing as well as you could be, end of.

+1

Even as a WHM and AST i find myself DPSing more than healing... Healing potency is so OTT in this game that actually needing to spam heal is rare, especially when you couple it with mitigation

[Iris_BP]

No, no there really isn't, especially if you are a SCH. Eos can solo heal almost anything sub 50 (with 40+ requiring a few heals from you every now and then). Hell, even savage has alot of time for both healers to be in cleric stance.

Ofcourse you are welcome to overheal or sit on your arse doing nothing, but please don't try and pull this 'special snowflake' rubbish. You are not playing as well as you could be, end of.

Maybe if you're a scholar yes, but as a whm or ast no. I'm not telling you that you can't dps in SV for instance (because I do) but noone would say a word to you if you didn't. End game is absolutely different in this case and most of the parties require you to contribute and I'm totally okay with that. I'm trying to say that you can do a lot of content without people ranting that you're lazy.

[MentheusDreyar]

Maybe if you're a scholar yes, but as a whm or ast no. I'm not telling you that you can't dps in SV for instance (because I do) but noone would say a word to you if you didn't. End game is absolutely different in this case and most of the parties require you to contribute and I'm totally okay with that. I'm trying to say that you can do a lot of content without people ranting that you're lazy.

No you're wrong, you can DPS in everything if you want, no matter what healer you play. Every healer i personally know (and most are WHM/AST) DPS in every single piece of content from 1-60 inc. savage, solo healer or 8 man, doesn't matter. There is never enough damage to ensure any healer in any content is forced to only heal because healing is ridiculously OP compared to incoming damage in this game.

Is it harder to DPS as WHM and AST than SCH? Yeah sure, leveling both myself currently i'd agree, but it's still stupidly easy to DPS and do your basic job of keeping everyone alive.

[Iris_BP]

No you're wrong, you can DPS in everything if you want

You are not hearing me. Where did I say you can't dps in every dungeon? I just said that there are leveling dungeons where people won't say a word to you for not doing anything but healing. Hell, I level ninja and 95% of healers are only healing and Noone gives a damn about it, definitely not to the point of telling them in chat. Because if you're undergeared healer or you're with undergeared tank it's not easy to consistently dps. Of course you can throw in some dots and occasional rock but that's it. And many people while leveling just don't care enough.
I'm not defending lazy healers, um just saying Thayet many things depend on a situation. If you're struggling with just healing then you better not dps until you feel like you can, that's common sense.

[Astral145]

I really think that everyone's opinion on this matter is exactly that an "OPINION":P.... Everyone can sit and argue their OPINIONS till they are blue in the face but why bother? The fact is I don't see caster dps's stop pew pewing and start healing everyone o.O? seriously, that would be crazy right maybe for some of us? To a lot of people dpsing as a healer is just as crazy as a dps trying to heal well maybe not as crazy but you get the point.

My point is if the healer doesn't want to dps then let it go.... there could be several reasons for this like maybe the player doesn't feel comfortable with the tank or group.... or maybe the healer had one to many shots of tequila and is trying to figure out which bar among 16 bars is the tanks in a 4 player dungeon.... No matter what the reason is if the healer doesn't want to pew pew then let it go, bc if the healer for some reason gets dps tunnel vision and lets the tank die well that could be an issue that could very well lead to the whole group kissing the ground. Then everyone would have to trek all the way back to where they carved out there initials in the ground.

If you like healing and pew pewing then coodos to you but don't expect extra cookies at the end with a vote... reason being is that the tank did his job by rotating cd's and keeping that smooth flow going. Seriously if I see any healer spending more time dpsing than healing then I know the tank is doing good. However if I see the healer going crazy with healing and the tank is being stupid then guess who will be getting the extra cookies at the end...

Healer dps doesn't impress me much.... what impresses me is when I see a healer bring the whole group back to 3/4 to full health after the whole group just got thrown into a wall of aoes while the tank is taking on huge damage..... Now that impresses me.... Anyway that's my OPINION.... :P

[Lyrica_Ashtine]

Here is the thing. Every cleric stance CD puts you in a vulnerable position. During this time situations can happen that lead to failing your main priority - healing.

This should only happen if you are unfamiliar/lacking experience with the duty. Obviously, you shouldn't be going into Cleric's Stance when a big, potentially tank destroying attack is coming within a few seconds. It's a matter of knowing or doing it often enough that it becomes muscle memory. But that all takes (a lot) more effort and maybe that is the "scary" aspect about it? :P
But this is a form of effort all jobs have to perform for harder content

[Cynfael]

This should only happen if you are unfamiliar/lacking experience with the duty. Obviously, you shouldn't be going into Cleric's Stance when a big, potentially tank destroying attack is coming within a few seconds. It's a matter of knowing or doing it often enough that it becomes muscle memory. But that all takes (a lot) more effort and maybe that is the "scary" aspect about it? :P
But this is a form of effort all jobs have to perform for harder content

I just want to second this because it's important.

Lately I've seen CS mentioned by other posters as if it were some sort of roulette that put party members at risk of dying in exchange for increased DPS potential.

As Lyrica suggests, CS is not something that healers spray-and-pray with. It should not leave you vulnerable since you wouldn't have toggled it on (for a whopping 5 seconds at minimum) if life threatening damage had been imminent.

[LuminaLumi]

This is not a problem in Japanese servers, but from what I read from these comments is the following:
"I can just do the minimal effort possible, I WANT to look at netflix/FB" or
"It's just a GAME, I can do what I want, it's my money"

So some people truly do this just because they want to be lazy. If this is not toxic behaviour I don't know what is. We all pay for this game, not only you. Please bring your best to dungeons. This kind of behaviour and thinking is a much bigger issue than a healer who doesn't dps because they're not confident, or they're new to the game, or the content simply doesn't allow for dpsing.