But...I...I don't wanna DPS, I'm a healer...

[Eii]

Its like when I see Tanks with all Slaying gear and i get tired of having to overheal to keep up

no, you have to healspam them b/c they refuse to use their cds, not b/c of slaying gear. theres rarely any need for vitality gear in 3.0 (same as 2.x), outside of alex savage ofc, but even there its highly debatable b/c of your ever increasing ilvl.

we are at a point where we just have to admit that this is a game thats just absolutely not designed for the trinity system, yet still somewhat refuses to let it go. almost no dmg on tank outside tankbusters (and savage) and if the trashmobs in normal dungeons would do even less dmg, they would render your healers completly useless. period.

[Lyrica_Ashtine]

Here is my thing. You are a healer. Thats it. Theres a reason you have a dang green background for your class/job. I do not make myself DPS no matter the cost. If you get yelled at for DPSing in endgame stuff, thats not your fault. You are a HEALER not a dps. Its like when I see Tanks with all Slaying gear and i get tired of having to overheal to keep up because they refuse to be a dang tank. DPSing is a side thing, not a required one. Its nice to have, but don't feel forced to make up for overall low party DPS.

Refusing to DPS is one thing, but also refusing to actually heal a bit more - Which you explicitly mentioned it's your job - as well? The tank's job is to attract attention of monsters and take damage. The moment you get assaulted by everything and their mum, then you can complain the tank's not doing their job. If you're not healing a tank because they're a bit more damage oriented and you refuse to keep them alive, you're the one not doing your job.

[Ghishlain]

Its like when I see Tanks with all Slaying gear and i get tired of having to overheal to keep up because they refuse to be a dang tank.

Tanks in Slaying don't need any over healing. You just need to begin healing them sooner because they have a lower HP cap. You'll still be healing at the same time.

Tanks in Slaying / Hybrid allow them to DPS harder, which means (1) they generate more hate and (2) things die faster than normal, just reducing the overall healing requirement for the fight.

This is the same argument for a healer DPS. Healer's DPSing can shorten the fight length and thus reduce overall healing requirement (admittedly, you do use more MP to do this more often than naught).

Are either required? No, not for 99% of the content out there. Are they nice to have? Most certainly. Are they things players should strive for to maximize their performance? Most definitely.

[Cynfael]

Here is my thing. You are a healer. Thats it. Theres a reason you have a dang green background for your class/job. I do not make myself DPS no matter the cost. If you get yelled at for DPSing in endgame stuff, thats not your fault. You are a HEALER not a dps. Its like when I see Tanks with all Slaying gear and i get tired of having to overheal to keep up because they refuse to be a dang tank. DPSing is a side thing, not a required one. Its nice to have, but don't feel forced to make up for overall low party DPS.

Sadly, many players still think like this.

Once you start looking beyond role labels and start looking at resources such as mitigation, HP pools, DPS potential, and time spent performing actions, you can do extremely well.

Things like categorically refusing to DPS as a healer or even automatically assuming that tanks using Slaying accessories will be bad at their job really hold players back and make the game appear more cookie-cutter than it arguably already is.

[sackm]

DPSing on healers IS MITIGATION. Mobs dying faster is less damage received on the tank, and less mp needed to keep him up. even a single aero3 from a whm is HUGE dps (200-300) on large trash pulls.

[Twilite]

That is true but menphina help you if both DPS suck. That crappy aero dot and weaker than fire 1 stone 3 will only do so much.

[Sida]

Tanks with STR gear are a really mixed bag. You get those who look at their HP "ok, i have quite enough of that, let's put the rest to strengh" and use their CDs smartly. There are those who do the same but quite don't grasp the idea of CDs.. then sadly there are those who are "muh deeps", put everything to strength they can and tank in dps stance just because. The latter ones can end up with less HP than a dragoon if there is also a bit of gear disparity and they indeed tend to be rather challenging to heal.

Even then though, as someone said, tank having strength gear doesn't make you heal them more as such as they still take about the same amount of damage. They just don't have that much buffer for it so healer can't let it drop so long, but if you're decidedly not DPSing in the first place that shouldn't be an issue at all because what else would you be doing than healing.

[AniCelestine]

Don't you just love it how "more hp = less dmg taken" by so many healers with the shared mentality of "I'm healer not dps". Do you see "Increase defence by 20%" or "reduce damage taken by 20%" on fending accessories? No you don't. The defence values are same. And as far as I know the game, vitality only increases the amount of HP you have, full fending accessories let's you get 2-3 more hits be for you hit 0hp. But then again, you need 2-3 more heals cast to get from 1% hp back to 100% hp since heals don't work as percentages of target's max hp.

For the record, I rather heal a tank that uses mitigation cooldowns but has only i170 left side and all slaying accessories than full i200 with fending accessories but uses 0 mitigation skills.

To get back to the topic OP set for the thread: if you won't go do all the latest endgame content, there's no real need to dps as a healer other than few minutes faster dungeon runs.

[Kabzy]

If you get yelled at for DPSing in endgame stuff, thats not your fault. You are a HEALER not a dps.

So with this ideology, tanks can spam flash and hold aggro and do nothing but mitigate, while healers can top up tanks and then stand idle. Good luck even getting in endgame stuff with that mindset. ;D

What worries me even more is this is coming from an 'Arcanist', not a Conjurer or that other healer. xD

[deos]

For the record, I rather heal a tank that uses mitigation cooldowns but has only i170 left side and all slaying accessories than full i200 with fending accessories but uses 0 mitigation skills.

so true >_>