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    Delever's Avatar
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    Balthier Lightsworn
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    Phoenix
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    Paladin Lv 60
    Well I truly hope good players come with the transition! I know that a lot of players are gonna be coming again so lets hope so.
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    Ragnvard Worldshatter
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    Phoenix
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    Warrior Lv 60
    Multitude of factors imo:
    - in the past there is no loot to savage, so only the like-minded people who truly wanted the challenge will go for savage mode. In HW, if you want the best loot, or raids that doesn't make you snore, you are left with savage. Imo on phoenix there are more savage grps than experienced raiders.
    - There is nothing to do in this game outside of raids, so less people playing = less raiders. Even if you are interested in raiding, if your friends are quitting/taking a break/moving servers, you will feel more and more compelled to do the same. How long can you endure before you give up looking for a competent 8th member? Hell, there just isn't fun content in game. No, 3.1 will not fix this with 2 new dungeons (lol?) and a 24 man raid where people point fingers at how sucky each other are while being afk all fight long. Also, leveling an alt is just painfully boring these days while AF2 gear forbid people from gearing their alts effectively.
    - There is a pretty big execution gap between each floor. A1S is super easy, A2S is super easy, then A3S suddenly places a proper dps check on the individual basis while you wipe once a while due to server not registering positions properly+bad rng.
    - Due to a shrinking general population, raiders like to converge on unofficial raiding servers for new opportunities. Things are not necessary easier, since you still have to struggle with weeding out "the bads", and everyone thinks they are A4S worthy cuz they did 1200 dps on a dummy.


    These days the game feel more like a chat room than an RPG. I end up just chatting all day with ppl outside of raids, post stuff on the MB for giggles, pvp once a while, raid when everyone show up with a good internet connect.

    Today I logged in at 8pm svr prime time and had no queue. GG.

    I beg the question: "What selling point does Phoenix have?"
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    Code Talker
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    Phoenix
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    Lancer Lv 57
    Phoenix is the biggest EU realm.
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    Anpan Tabetai
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    Louisoix
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    Thaumaturge Lv 70
    Phoenix is shit. People say that static breaks are fault for not clearing A3S, A4S. That's not true, you have teams that are constantly going at it and still can't clear it? What do you think? It's been far too long and Phoenix still hasn't finished Savage.
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    Balthier Lightsworn
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    Paladin Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by YomiIndex View Post
    Phoenix is shit. People say that static breaks are fault for not clearing A3S, A4S. That's not true, you have teams that are constantly going at it and still can't clear it? What do you think? It's been far too long and Phoenix still hasn't finished Savage.
    Savage 3 and 4 aren't exactly a walk in the park
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    Quote Originally Posted by Delever View Post
    Savage 3 and 4 aren't exactly a walk in the park
    It's been 1 month since A4S clear, 2 months since A3S. You have full ESO gear. (Accessories 210 already) Your DPS is more than enough . So calling it a DPS check at this time is just stupid.

    Now I guess Phoenix really is bad if they can't process what's happening and how to execute things. If you dedicate 10 hours a week for raiding you can surely do it.

    Those teams that were doing it all the time for world first had lower dps and were figuring out ways how to maximize dps for certain parts and did far more testing that you'll ever do with your gear.
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    Last edited by YomiIndex; 10-03-2015 at 05:34 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YomiIndex View Post
    It's been 1 month since A4S clear, 2 months since A3S. You have full ESO gear. (Accessories 210 already) Your DPS is more than enough . So calling it a DPS check at this time is just stupid.

    Now I guess Phoenix really is bad if they can't process what's happening and how to execute things. If you dedicate 10 hours a week for raiding you can surely do it.

    Those teams that were doing it all the time for world first had lower dps and were figuring out ways how to maximize dps for certain parts and did far more testing that you'll ever do with your gear.
    I think its a bit less than a month since elysium beat it and also come on give some people a break! Not all people wanna dedicate that much time to it
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    Prissflox Funxdee
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    Phoenix
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    Lancer Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Delever View Post
    I think its a bit less than a month since elysium beat it and also come on give some people a break! Not all people wanna dedicate that much time to it
    They should have cleared it a lot faster. I'm going to agree that raiding on Phoenix is really bad.
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    Lhei Fox
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    Phoenix
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    Dark Knight Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by YomiIndex View Post
    Phoenix is shit. People say that static breaks are fault for not clearing A3S, A4S. That's not true, you have teams that are constantly going at it and still can't clear it? What do you think? It's been far too long and Phoenix still hasn't finished Savage.
    thats beacuse most people are to casual!
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    Miza Eron
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    Phoenix
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    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    I agree with the post earlier, that there is nothing to do outside raids. Me on most of my group just log on for savage. It is also true that it is very difficult to find a competent replacement here, but to be honest, good players are usually in statics, they don't wait for an opportunity to be someone's replacement. We need to progress on A4, because 1 member is leaving for 2 weeks, and it can happen that we won't raid until he comes back, which is awful, but what can you do ^^. We are a slow server on progression, but it is worth noting that all the world firsts, second, thirds were achieved by Japanese or players from USA, like ellysium for example, they on 'EU' server but they are all from America, so their latency is 10-15 compared to our 100-200.
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