I cried when I saw leveling in 1.19

**Melian** · 10-10-2011 05:28 PM

so you work hard to get your 50 in broken state period of this game, and you want other to experience the same thing?

I want your opinion, do leveling pre 1.19 was fun?

I agree with your /basic/ statement. I did not have all that much fun leveling up to 50 in this game.

I /don't/ agree with your implied result though....
The reason I didn't like going from 1-50 isn't that it took time, or was something that had to be done, or any of that. It's that it wasn't implemented well at all. It was implemented shockingly poorly. I had a great time going 1-75 in ffxi, where parties were a lot of fun. Here, I can count the number of non-ls parties I took part in going to lv 50 on one hand. Without using all the fingers.

In XI I had other misc fun goals to shoot for while leveling up (AF, coffers, etc). Here, not so much.

I don't think leveling itself should be done away with. I think it should simply be made relevant. Get a working search/atmosphere where people use it. Get content. Or if SE's not going to do that.... you know that "Let everyone start at 50" thread on the first page? It's not actually a bad idea imo, if SE is dead set in making leveling irrelevant. If I can go and get 150k/hour or w/e in a party of 8 in the kobold mines (or however much at a low level just being pled by someone), then why even bother keeping it in the game?

Just get rid of it entirely, instead of pretending that it has any role whatsoever.

It's kind of insulting to keep it around but so completely trivialized. A game without levels is weird, but I'd understand the concept. A game with levels that simply take no work at all to get seems poorly made.

**Alkoun** · 10-10-2011 09:26 PM

Waitwaitwait...

Everyone click this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNvFP...eature=related

Then re-read the OP while it plays.

Is it better now?

**ObeiKinstar** · 10-10-2011 09:36 PM

Um NEPTUNE I HOPE YOU READ THIS!!!!!!

Please don't listen to trolls and spammers, you are a good person deserved of happiness. What you have gained and accomplished over the last year getting to 50 will ALWAYS be with you! No one can take away that experience. Don't worry about what others do or if they are pl, or using cheats, play the game the way YOU want to, if you desire challenge and hard methods of leveling that can be accomplished, don't worry about how quickly others can get there, just focus on YOU!

**ChiefCurrahee** · 10-10-2011 09:55 PM

So you worked hard to get some where in life.

This is a game.

I'm not saying lv 1-50 should be cake, but it shouldn't be too time consuming. We play this to take a break from our 9-5 lives. If leveling to cap only takes a few days getting power leveled or fighting in groups so what. It most likely means all the content headed our way will be higher level content and not low/mid level content.
"End game" is where we spend most of our time, why put on the brakes gettign there?

**quantumsaint** · 10-10-2011 09:59 PM

Neptune uses Wall of Text. It's Super-Effective!

When I first started playing FFXI, they decreased the amount of exp it took to get from 50-75. Tons of people complained that had high levels, but it made the game more enjoyable for those coming into it, (including the members of my ls, none of who had a 50 yet). Then came level-sync and Astral Flow burn parties, then Abyssea. Leveling will always get easier over time in a MMO.

**Raikki** · 10-10-2011 10:04 PM

Leveling up was a more rewarding process in FFXI by far. You actually experienced stuff as you leveled up. From day 1, FF14's level up process has been absolutely awful. I've grinded my butt off and I have no fond memories of any of it. By comparison I have countless fond memories of leveling in FFXI (though admittedly a lot of bad ones too). Not only is it too late to save the level up process in this game and make it "XI-like", but the market has shifted away from long level-ups to facilitate more casual gameplay and SE is changing with the times. It is unfortunate that your self-worth appears to center around being a more hardcore leveler than other people. Why not go for server first Ifrit or some uber-materia'd gear or something else to brag about? Stop resting on your past accomplishments.

**Uki** · 10-10-2011 10:15 PM

Originally Posted by Neptune

I cried when I saw leveling in 1.19.
This totally breaks the game. I had to work hard to get to 50, playing every night for at least 2 weeks and sometimes putting aside things I needed to do. One time I let the trash pile up and I didn't take the trash out for 2 weeks. My house smelled a little bad but it was worth it. Try eating pizza for 2 weeks straight while you have the thrill of being one of the first people to 50, or taking your second character to 50. Or taking vacation time to be one of the first to do something and now someone can just power level to 50 in a few nights. It completely breaks the sense of all that I've accomplished in this game. My life has sucked enough SE, please don't take away the one thing that has brought a little happiness to it.

I don't want to be rude but:
1-I don't see the point of telling your personal life in mmorpg forum(nor people cares,yep,we're cold hearted bastards.).
2-The quote,that's YOUR fault,why you want to be the first to get level 50? you want attention from the players or something?i think i saw some of your signatures of other players saying things like:You should be the GM of this forums or something like that,all praises to you, so it must be that.They're not going to give you a medal. Let me tell you something,competition is BAD.SE's message already says that don't forget family,work,ETC.Seems that you don't really care, saying that you even didn't take the trash out...
3-Message for all those players that start post like: PLEASE FIX THIS,PLEASE FIX THAT,PLEASE ADD AGAIN THIS,PLEASI ADD AGAIN THAT.SE IS KILLING THE GAME blah blah blah.Dev Yoshida said that the game is still at 50%,in other words,it's like a BETA,SO PLEASE STOP SPAMMING THIS SORRY ASS THREADS.

EDIT-Blah,i don't even know why im writting this,this guy is not even going to read again his post.

**Nikita** · 10-10-2011 10:38 PM

I love a chubby man that smells of body odor and old pizza... Naked and sweaty with boobs larger than an average woman's... Oh Neptune I want to tie you up and bake cookies on your large hairy chest... I might just have to come to Besaid knowing you are there... Grinding away on rank 70s like a real man...

**Altera** · 10-10-2011 11:57 PM

Originally Posted by Nikita

I love a chubby man that smells of body odor and old pizza... Naked and sweaty with boobs larger than an average woman's... Oh Neptune I want to tie you up and bake cookies on your large hairy chest... I might just have to come to Besaid knowing you are there... Grinding away on rank 70s like a real man...

UUuuhhhm, i think if you read this sentence I'm copy/pasting: I even met my future husband around one of the campfires in Ronfaure and we got married in game. Then I think unless the player is homosexual, the OP is a girl.

**Nikita** · 10-11-2011 12:24 AM

Originally Posted by Altera

UUuuhhhm, i think if you read this sentence I'm copy/pasting: I even met my future husband around one of the campfires in Ronfaure and we got married in game. Then I think unless the player is homosexual, the OP is a girl.

Wow, you took my post as seriously as the op.

How do some of these people even figure out how to turn their computers on.

Wow.

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