Tab target issues

[Wadoka]

The problem with "Target Nearest Enemy" (TNE) and similar options is specifically that it does not cycle between targets. A Huge point I can't stress enough.

I assert that targeting functions do not make navigating easier whenever there are more targets, which is the main time clicking is also harder. Especially in PvP, huge mob density groups and many other places with huge groups it's more of a chore than anything which is something that needs to change.

Why is this a problem? I'm genuinely curious.

(I haven't done any PvP yet)

I bound my TAB key to TNE long long ago, and I've never looked back. Target nearest... kill it... Target next nearest... kill it... this works exactly as I need it to, in all PvE situations I've encountered as a Paladin, Dragoon, and Bard. I have never encountered a situation where I need to cycle targets using hotkeys. If I need a specific enemy, I have a mouse for that...

[Moonleg]

If I need a specific enemy, I have a mouse for that...

Sounds like you have reflexes and pixel-perfect targeting skills beyond those of your average player if the mouse is always enough when you need to quickly change to another mob.

[AeraLure]

Why is this a problem? I'm genuinely curious.

In PvP you'll be wanting to cycle through targets in range. TNE will give you a PLD or a NIN most often - sometimes that will be useful, but most of the time you want the SCH or the SMN a little further away. Using Tab for that will get you a SCH or a SMN eventually, but the odds are about equal as to whether or not its the one you want or one halfway across the map. Most of the time in PvP when you are wishing to do this the mouse won't be of much help to you.

In PvE its more about being able to cycle through the nearest mob and not be cycling through mobs that aren't even pulled yet. Marking helps with that of course, as does a mouse. Less of an issue in PvE.

In both cases though being able to set a range filter within tabbing would help enormously.

[Awful]

The problem with TNE is that even if you do switch it out for tab target it still doesn't cycle nor does it even target the enemy you're on correctly it's not proximity of your character but rather how the screen is facing a certain way. You must have your screen a certain way as to always have your cycle going through each mob the way you're facing rather than how the games tab target is set up.

As for PvP it's a nightmare to tab target to get to a kill target friends that I play with we have to focus target each other, call out a target, and then focus it down. It's really tedious to do instead of how tab target should normally react, no one wants to tab 102090239 times to get that white mage that's already back in enemy lines because you couldn't target him/her.

[Wadoka]

Sounds like you have reflexes and pixel-perfect targeting skills beyond those of your average player if the mouse is always enough when you need to quickly change to another mob.

I have nothing to compare it to. This is the way I have always played. It's worked so far. The biggest nuisance using the mouse to target a specific person for me, is when I need to target another player (to heal them) when they're not in my party, they're running frantically away from a mob and trying not to die... that takes a bit of coordination, aye... "Hold STILL for just a moment, will ya...?"

I cannot agree with this enough. The tab targeting is tolerable in PvE content...

I'd decided it WASN'T tolerable in PvE. I came over from SWTOR, where TAB was default "Target Nearest Enemy" and I could not figure out for the longest time, why, here, when i hit TAB, it would target a mob far away, in the back of the room. "No! Not that one! The one about to eat me -!"

That's why I keybound "Target Nearest Enemy" to TAB, and use my mouse (G502) to pick out specific enemies in PvE - the healers, the mages... same as my old SWTOR habit.

I will certainly agree, we could use more and better logical targeting options.

[Dotsusama]

The habit I've gotten into when trying to target enemies directly in front of me has been to zoom in my camera and play with a more "face down" instead of "face out" over-the-shoulder view. The tab targeting will not select anything you cannot see, in most circumstances (clipping and weird angles aside).

Then I have on my controller R3 click set to put my camera back to its "default" state -- which for me is the highest, widest field of view possible for maximum situational awareness. This way it takes me a second to zoom in for precise targeting, but only an instant to get back to the action.

The TRUE solution to my problem is just: Overpower, Overpower, Overpower....

[PFM]

/cast [nocombat] Attack
/cleartarget
/targetenemy
/startattack
Ah, if only.

[Mclyde]

I remember at least one Mmo where we have the option to target the closest ennemy from camera center to the farest.
It's not bad.

The worst in pvp is when i play Paladin. I run in melee in order to be focus but the game only target very far ennemies and i'm just being gangbang without doing anything.

An other problem is in healer mode : outrange allies nicknames are not grey tinted so we lost a lot of time trying to select or heal someone who is completely elsewhere.

[Alahra]

If I had a dollar for every time I've Tab targeted an enemy I can't actually see because of the camera...

It would be really nice if they'd give us some control over how Tab targeting works, like options to have it cycle from left to right, or to prioritize the closest target, and so on.

[Leowilde]

Thank you for bringing this up. I have played since the original release in 2010, and it still bugs me beyond belief. >.<