Monk's Heavensward abilities

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http://www.fflogs.com/rankings/7#boss=21

http://www.fflogs.com/rankings/7#boss=20

I don't know what else to tell you.. MNK is consistently out DPSing NIN and DRG in ST and AOE. I really don't think you understand how much a 3% buff to MNK is with all of its modifiers. I also was not arguing that MNK utility is better than NIN that would be silly, I was simply stating that MNK utility COULD increase raid DPS if used properly. You just fail to understand.

No worries, I do understand. Seems you're failing to understand actually. 3% really isn't that much of a boost, modifiers or not. Could you imagine GL with no damage boost? Monk would be incredibly weak. It takes that large amount of 30% damage boost + skill speed from GL + fists of fire (which really isn't that much of a difference either, on or off. Try it if you don't believe me. In my tests, FoF on gives quite a tiny dps boost vs off. No reason not to have it on though of course.) to bring monk up to par, and that should go to show you even further how insignificant 3% is. Measuring yourself without FoF on will give you an idea of what kind of increase you get from the 3% buff that monks were given.

If your result is different from mine, please do say so. Unless something is going terribly wrong on my end with the numbers coming in, I can say the difference is minimal.

Also, if you'll note:

Look at the highest numbers on Ravana Ex specifically, a fight where more people have participated than in savage: http://www.fflogs.com/rankings/4#boss=1028

With a larger pool of players participating in this giving it a larger and more accurate representation of job DPS as a result, with the exception of one monk, DRGs are wiping the floor with MNKs in the top DPS tier and Ninjas are competing with them quite fiercely.

Dragoons may have not been able to get much luck hitting their damage ceiling in savage yet, but in Ravana Ex, you can clearly see for the most part, in the top dps tier, Dragoons are winning against monks. The same thing was happening around launch, when Ravana was a longer lasting fight, so it's not just burst damage.


And you were actually arguing that monk utility is competitive with NIN. You emphasized mantra's dps boost in a way that you said it makes MNK competitive with NIN for raid utility. It is not. Why else would you list MNK's one useful utility skill? Everyone knows already that MNK has Mantra O.o. No reason to say that, unless you know, you felt like it was worth comparing to Ninja's utility. Glad you seem to agree now though that comparing the two is silly, Ninja utility blows Monk utility out.