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    Fellow dragoons!!

    Dragoon in training here!

    I was wondering... after the opener with all the OGDS weaved in do we just repeat ht>ctcombo>phleb>tttcombo over and over weaving in any OGDS that are ready to be popped?

    If so I feel like I'm clipping too early into some of the dots such as phleb...

    I'm level 50 btw!

    Thanks in advance
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    At level 50 you do two full thrust combos for every chaos thrust combo.
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    at level 50 you dont have enough skill speed to use that rotation, and you also have no reason to follow that rotation as you have no abilities to compliment it, you should couple your ht and phleb together until you reach higher levels. refresh them at the same time

    ht, phleb, ct combo, ft combo, ft combo, repeat
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    Thank you! All this time I've been noobing out lol

    Shall I still use the same opener?
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    If youre weaving in your cooldowns, saving lifesurge for the first ft, and using power surge on jump while b4b and ir are up, yes
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    Eve Malqir
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaisersoke View Post
    at level 50 you dont have enough skill speed to use that rotation, and you also have no reason to follow that rotation as you have no abilities to compliment it, you should couple your ht and phleb together until you reach higher levels. refresh them at the same time

    ht, phleb, ct combo, ft combo, ft combo, repeat
    Actually:

    HT > CT > Phleb > FT > FT > repeat

    is optimal from 50 to 55. At 56 you settle into the level 60 rotation:

    HT > IDC > 4th hit > Phleb > TTT > 4th hit > repeat

    It's a minor difference, separating HT from Phleb, but at 60 it's pretty vital, so you should get used to it now.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kaisersoke View Post
    If youre weaving in your cooldowns, saving lifesurge for the first ft, and using power surge on jump while b4b and ir are up, yes
    From 50 to 55, you use Life Surge on the first combo finisher that comes up - CT (with positional) or FT.
    From 56 to 60, you use Life Surge on the first FT, WT, or FaC that comes up (as long as you get positional on the WT/FaC you use it on).

    You should never - under any circumstances - hold your jumps simply because you don't have cooldowns up. This is a flat dps loss. Always use them on cooldown unless you're holding SSD/DFD for movement in particular fights (which are very scarce these days) or you need to hold Jump because an aoe just fell under you.

    Do not. I repeat. DO NOT. Save any oGCD skills for B4B or IR. Don't save IR for B4B. Just use every skill as it comes up. There's never a reason to hold any of them for dps gains at 60. The gains you'll get from holding B4B in the 50-55 range are small enough that it's smarter to just practice using it on CD for how you'll be doing it at the higher levels.


    The only skills at 60 you'll ever be holding regularly are Blood of the Dragon and Geirskogul, due to mechanics in the fight. Geirskogul should also be used optimally twice between each b4b and twice during each b4b (excluding the one time you use it in the opening b4b), which results in you holding your gsk sometimes (though it never results in you messing up your 3 per minute timer).



    That said~ We have a really great dragoon thread here:
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...A-DPS-Paradigm

    with a lot of active posters who know quite a lot about the class and how to play it, if you ever have further, specific questions.
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    Last edited by JackFross; 10-01-2015 at 07:34 AM.

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    Hello Fellow Dragoon main!
    Dragoons for life, Dragoons for the win!
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    Dante Venarra
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    Higher potency rotation at 50. Taken from the posted DRG thread and multiple others that have been around for quite a while.

    H - IDC - P - TTT - TTT -> Repeat is the best rotation we can do when BOTD has dropped.
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    Pheonix Grimmie
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    Dragoon Lv 70
    did u take feint off ur hotbar? good, that's Dragoon 101
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