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    RosaBlanche's Avatar
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    Rosa Blanche
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    Malboro
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    Summoner Lv 60

    is knockback rude?

    you're fating, you pick your mob and start melee him, then out of nowhere he fly 20 yalms away right in the unsafe zone and you either have to wait for him to come back or chase him like an idiot.

    Even worse if you're a caster, you pick a safe spot, you start casting your bombs then all you do is "spell interrupted" because of the knockbacks.

    In neverreap today, i almost missed my bane because the whm knocked back the wamoura in the first pull.

    Personally, when i leveled my brd, mch or whm i never used knockback attack unless i was alone because i know how frustrating it can be for others, but i'd like to know what you think about it, are you still using it because it's a great way to stun regardless of the others, or do you remove it from your hotbar because you know that whatever the situation is, someone will be pissed?
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    Player Kolaina's Avatar
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    Hazy Dreams
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 90
    bard has a knock back?
    i dont necessarily think its rude. ignorant or selfish more likely. selfish because the skills used to do this are off the global cooldown, so they can be weaved for more dps to the individual using them. though people using them neglect to think how this impairs other peoples dps and possible interrupts in others rotations due to kiting or line of sight, which is where the ignorance comes in.
    as for summoners with garuda egi on sic, thats just laziness
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    Raela Sarinelle
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    Cactuar
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    Scholar Lv 80
    Extremely rude. Should only be used if you know it'll kill them, you know the mob is immune, or you're in imminent danger and can CC it. As a healer, if I pull a mob, I run to the tank so they can grab it - never kick it on whm. Sometimes, the dps will come pick it off if the tank didn't see it.. Don't want to impede them.
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    Acyd's Avatar
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    Acyd De'nacht
    World
    Jenova
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 80
    Not rude in and of itself. It's rude when you ask the person nicely to not do it, and they keep doing it.

    Mostly its a SMN's garuda, but they almost always put it on obey and that's the end of it.

    Other times its MCHists. Trying to do that knockback as the last move to kill a mob. They almost never ever kill it, and it just takes longer to kill.
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    Last edited by Acyd; 09-29-2015 at 10:25 PM.
    Acyd De'nacht

    Jenova

    Woe to the vanquished, mournful tear, glorious...Eternal King...Ah...Whom today we commemorate...I am the death of death.

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    Charlotte Elise
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    Kujata
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 70
    Yes, I /slap anyone who does it constantly.
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    Drako Lombardi
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 60
    With Blms still having a line of site limitation(not sure why they have yet to fix this). It is a real pain in the ass. If you and a MCH/WHM/Garuda happen to be on the same mob. Your DPS rotation can be utterly destroyed by this one move. Although as a temporary solution. If I'm on BLM, and I have any of those jobs in my group. I try to stand next to them, so that its extremely unlikely I will be interrupted. I wish they would just fix this LoS issue already.
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    Raela Sarinelle
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    Cactuar
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    Scholar Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Drako View Post
    With Blms still having a line of site limitation(not sure why they have yet to fix this). It is a real pain in the ass. If you and a MCH/WHM/Garuda happen to be on the same mob. Your DPS rotation can be utterly destroyed by this one move. Although as a temporary solution. If I'm on BLM, and I have any of those jobs in my group. I try to stand next to them, so that its extremely unlikely I will be interrupted. I wish they would just fix this LoS issue already.
    All jobs have it. I was on war with a mob next to a wall and a mch knocked it about a yalm to the left.. Broke my line of sight and cancelled my skill. Cast bars just make it all the more annoying. I believe it's a feature, not a bug.
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    Blue Kitty
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    Moogle
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    Conjurer Lv 84
    Yes to tanks and ACN/SMN pets when they get to close. I had a MCH who kept using knock back in HM normal and I told him off when I left he stalked me I was in the open world for 20 mins until I made a ticket.
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  9. #9
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    Character
    Xander Wolf
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 90
    I use it as a "finisher" on my WHM, usually when the mob is around 5% hp, ill use stone III + Fluid Aura, doing around 5k damage ensuring a kill, on immune and bosses I use it all the time, otherwise I don't use, unless the situation is out of control.
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    Celest Ru'milan
    World
    Jenova
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 100
    If it's in the name of knocking a mob back into a group or trying cancel a cast then no.

    If it's spamming it cause its a oGCD then yes it is rude. I try very hard on tank to keep the mobs grouped and facing one direction so that conal aoe's are only directed at me. If the mob is bounced out and I have to reposition to get things back into place then your not only being annoying, you are also possibly lowering the parties DPS. If I have to move things around then melee DPS are missing positionals and that is never good.
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