[NA] Ifrit Bleeds, We Can Kill It (Hyper): COMPLETE

[Keftenk]

Confirmed.

1 chest per person.

Cant trade the items you get.

Weapons you get are random the class you kill it on doesn't affect what weapon drops so you can kill it on MRD and get the THM weapon drop.

Alright, thanks. Not completely awful if it's like faction nms then luls.

[DeathCrusader]

So ffxi voidwatch system brought into ffxiv? yay....seriously, why do they think this is a good system to now implement it in both games?

[Penguin]

Peng, have you tested how +STR impacts WS?

Trying to decide if i want to put +attack or +STR on these gloves . . .

I haven't no i haven't really had much luck with materia and haven't done a large amount of spirit bonding simply because of our Ifrit attempts so i will do extensive stat testing when i start getting some decent materia.

[Actus]

wtf edit......

[Xatsh]

Confirmed.

1 chest per person.

Cant trade the items you get.

Weapons you get are random, the class you kill it on doesn't affect what weapon drops so you can kill it on MRD and get the THM weapon drop.

Great another 100% BS idea from SE.... This needs to be changed immediately makes it almost pointless doing the stupid fight can't even get the gear to the people it belongs to.

[Twentytwo]

Peng, since you just posted. Items looted go directly to peoples inventory? 100% confirmed? I need to decide to rage or not lol

We also tried filling up our inventories 200/200 to see if maybe then it would go into our loot list. It did not only a message was given "You cannot obtain xxx item" just like leve rewards. We had to drop something then select the chest again.

[Keftenk]

LOL damnit, since we're so close, we started thinking about how to get people the gear they wanted...and this was an idea. Guess not though

[Buddhsie]

Each person needs to have the Inferno lamp to be eligible for loot, so they can't have it in a pool. I wonder if you have the weapon already it gives you one from the remaining options or just gives you none at all.. Could be fun having to kill it to get the 1 or 2 weapons you don't have yet if its still random :O

[Zdenka]

NQ shepard's pie for example gives me 69 attack and if your numbers were correct that would mean using shepard's pies would increase my doomspike damage by 138 points of damage, my highest doomspike without a pie is 820 damage and my highest with a pie is 832 damage.

If attack effected weaponskills in the way you say i should be seeing close to 1k with +1 shepard's pie and using my hart guisarme that has +28 attack in it and yet i haven't.

If someone can provide 100% proof of your claims i would be happy to accept them but from personal testing if it does give any extra damage to weaponskills at all the increase is extremely minimal.

Edit: It could also be that food buffs aren't providing the same buff to weaponskill damage that attack on armor/weapons do which is entirely possible, if that is the case than a 2/3 materia'd +2/3 hart guisarme will probably be higher damage than the ifrit lance.

I will try to test it when i start getting a decent amount of attack materia but sadly so far i have been super unlucky with materia and haven't had too much time to spirit bond between sleep and ifrit attempts.

Ill try an unslotted guisarme for tonight, and alternate with my one with +Attack materia in it. I'll average out the damage per WS but it might still be off with how much buffing it changes its damage output. (if I get 4x BS/RS/F one attempt, and only 3 the next... will be skewed pretty hard)

Before slotting materia my best was only 769, after slotting my best was 874 though that high was rare there were plenty of 860s, and none ever landed between 800-830. Single buffing with just RS usually got it to upper 700s.

Shepards pie NQ rose my attack from 545 to 620 = 75
HQ rose it to 628 = 83
HQ2 rose it to 640 = 95

I'm not sure what the Atk cap on it is if you are only getting 69, it might have uncapped percentages?


Also 1 attack = 2 damage is an observation, but you must remember you can't just multiply your paper doll x 2. (in my case 620 * 2 = 1240). ifrit still has defense that is worked into the calculation!

Anyways I'll try some different things today and see if I can come up with anything more concrete.

[Felix]

First of all, huge grats to you guys! Great job!

Secondly... Voidwatch system? Loot automatically going into someone's inventory and unable to be traded? This is the worst idea I've ever heard. Period.