i think we have had too much of the name calling and telling people to go back to other games already. we are all here because we want the game to be a success. we may have differing opinions, but we should still work together and figure out a happy medium to where both sides can enjoy the game. me and kimahri had a civilized discussion just a few days ago and that's what it will take to get the game the way we can all enjoy. we didn't agree on many points, but could be rational and suggest things to make both sides happy. i think we all need to start doing more of this and less of the fighting. fighting will get nobody the results we want, but whatever we are given and will have to live with.