Quote Originally Posted by Kimahri View Post
Now I see what you're saying. I'm not going to start an argument with you, just show you a point or two. What you're saying about what a THM does with nuking and debuffing I have absolutely no problem about it what so ever. Since it's only one of two mage classes, I don't mind a limit to the cure. Sacrifice is basically all Thaumaturge needs. I don't see why it would also need a Conjurer's cure if it has one of it's own? Things along this line I'm in total support for.

What I don't agree with is the fact that people can pick and choose from all the abilities to settle into their custom class. I've seen a damn Thaumaturge solo a hard NM without near the difficulty it took Avesta in XI to kill Genbu. It took Avesta 2 hours to kill that damn thing.....What I'm trying to say is that if there are no restrictions to the abilities being used by every class, then down the line it'll come accustomed to make a near-perfect class. Even if you use Gifthorse's "Nerf ability" concept, people will still choose the best abilities out of the pack.

My concept was in line with a few others in this thread. Make the access of certain abilities to be class specific. I'm not saying all abilities. You can still use abilities like ferocity and that Marauder ability that lets you syphon HP with the next attack. I don't agree that your pugilist can use raise. That's one ability that'll cripple the Conjurer. (It is Conjurer, right? lol) Right now it basically feels to me that if I'm playing Pugilist, I'm also playing Marauder/Lancer/Gladiator. And in your case, Conjurer. I can't say Archer, because that class has a bow. lol
well technically resurrect and it's a thm ability, but i do see your point. my point is my pug has magic and i learned a magic ability after spending a month leveling my thm so why should i not be able to use it. i use it as an addition to assist my mage not criple it and am used in a party in that role. a mage doesn't need to get close to a nm with big aoe attacks, but my 50 pug that has the ability can. i just feel the the learned abilities should be able to be used by your other classes because you took the time to learn them. i feel that classes would become more unique if they gave more of the abilities through the guilds that you could purchase as class specific abilities. then you could get the higher level abilities to use on only that class. i just don't see how if i have a 40 thm and a 50 pug i am crippling the thm class. i took the time to level it and play as both classes in nm battles depending on what is needed from me. i wasn't tryin to argue with you just showing that whether or not you agree with my play style or not it is how the game was made.

if you really want to watch the thm solo the nm pay attention it uses almost all thm abilities not other classes. the reason it does it is because emulate is a way overpowered move. if you take the elemental resistance from a mob and put it on yourself the mage takes less than 1/4 the damage a main tanking gladiator does. then it can use another move shadowseer and do massive damage to the nm. the thm is overpowered as bad as the arc is imo, but that is for se to do something about nerfing them it's not cross class abilities causing it. have you seen a pug/arc/gla/lnc solo a nm even though it can use most of the abilities? that class is just overpowered and people found the glitch to make it massive and se will get it fixed.