Something is missing.

[Sonata_rose]

Something i miss in this game is my character doesn't feel Unique to play. I'm like every one else.
pressing the same buttons. doing the same rotation, yada yada yada.

What i would really like to see is a talent tree for every class. with at least 3 different routes. More supportive abilities and diversity between classes, because it feels like every class is starting to be the same. More focusing on cc and mechanics instead of this incredible boring focus on DPS DPS DPS DPS DPS DPS DPS DPS DPS 12341234

"But we should bring the player not the class"
Well no. Should be a good mixture between individual skill and how some classes are unique in their own way, so we can have more fun putting up fun class combos and so on
we can play every class/job anyway so why not?

well long story short. I would like to see some more class customization, then just gather gear to them.

[F_Maximillian]

I'd prepare your flame shield for the reasoning detailed here...

[Azazua_azura]

As much as i agree on having more customization parser data will end up trumping that as well as hive mind game play also. I've been pressing the a and b buttons (x and circle on ps and xbox) for roughly 27 years. its always gonna be that. Talent trees don't really work in the duty finder type game design. Even WoW saw this was hard and pretty much took them out once they added to raid finder and que system. If mmo went back to their MuD based roots and to EQ and the like and not needing a DF system we could prolly have stuff like this. AT most we have the materia system so up till endgame gear u could techically customise ur gear. But again due to DF even that has its limits.

And the classes dpo play different from each other, only a cynical person thinks they are the same.

In truth its really up to you how u wish to play each class/job. And to be frank I see ton of ppl playing all the jobs differently.



Perfect example is me and my boyfriend when we play SMN

I'm more opted to use Ifrit and use my party buff he has and use Eye 4 Eye on tank

He mainly uses garuda

I will sometimes help tank stun aoe with irfit as my boyfriend would use garuda stuff.

I mostly used Ruin 3 after 60 he used that sometimes but mostly stuck to ruin 1

heck i was just in haukke manor as my smn on this character and i dps'ed plus help healed the tank to give our healer some dps time.

parser data aside there is no real wrong way to play any class or job each has a good amount of added skills u can you and u can allocate ur points how u see fit.

[AskaRay]

While I enjoy skill trees and customization, in the end it always just devolves to "if you don't have THIS EXACT SETUP you aren't worth taking in the party".
I'd rather forget about that here and leave customization like that in my single player games.

[MihaelB]

While I enjoy skill trees and customization, in the end it always just devolves to "if you don't have THIS EXACT SETUP you aren't worth taking in the party".
I'd rather forget about that here and leave customization like that in my single player games.

This is what I foresee too, it's already mind numbingly painful to have certain classes without skills such as healers without swiftcast & roleplaying "ice magicians" taking route in duty finder. Can you imagine the rage and abundance of players with unwanted and troll focused specialised builds?

[Kosmos992k]

While I enjoy skill trees and customization, in the end it always just devolves to "if you don't have THIS EXACT SETUP you aren't worth taking in the party".

I don't see how that can be the case outside of raiding groups.

I'd rather forget about that here and leave customization like that in my single player games.

I kinda thought customization was one of the main draws to MMORPGs?

[Yeldir]

I don't see how that can be the case outside of raiding groups.

I kinda thought customization was one of the main draws to MMORPGs?

The claim that it degenerated to every player with the exact same build is bullshit, anyway - one of the excuses developers use to avoid balancing an intricate talent system, and one of the excuses players have to justify their anger at not understanding their own class well enough for their experiments with it to yield anything but disadvantages.

It led to builds revolving around a certain goal, but even in hallmark games like WoW which were notorious for this very kind of thing, you'd see plenty of, say, fury warriors with different talent distributions depending on whether or not they had access to a shaman or a paladin, whether they got lucky with 2h drops or 1h ones, and so on.

[sackm]

you stand out by actually being good at the game and playing your class to its fullest potential. unlike 90% of the playerbase

[Kedo]

you stand out by actually being good at the game and playing your class to its fullest potential. unlike 90% of the playerbase

I don't know why you don't have more likes, but I threw you one, and I am quoting you because you nailed it!

[elemental10]

One of the most posted argument against this idea is most people will just get discriminated if they go with some bizarre build and thus we will all have to conform to the generic build... You will still see clones everywhere. Implying for maximum battle effectiveness and not for role playing purposes.