Please release nest Normal and Savage raids at the same time.

[Kosmos992k]

As expected. Your post reeks of elitism. Just reemember it goes both ways, love. That aside, Alexander savage was balanced around i190 gear and some i200 pieces for the first couple of floors. So it's nobody's fault if they wanted to get the gear from the story mode. The issue is the lack of incentive to run Savage mode because it was released at a later date. Please stay on topic.

Elitism? Lol, yeah, right, i'll just take my LVL 53 PLD, and point out it's my best class. Hardly elite or elitist, and befor you claim reverse snobbery, it's got nothing to do with that for me, I am just not content to sit by while people propose to alter the game to suit tem, in ways that are detrimental to the majority of players.

Far from elitism, I'm simply sick and tired of the crying and whining coming from the contingent of 'raiders' who essentially want modifications to Normal/Savage modes of Alexander altered to make things more relevant to them. That is what this topic is about isit not? I replied both to this topic and the thoughts or expressions I have seen in similar topics for the last week. Frankly, it's getting a bit boring to read all the whining from people saying either NM spoiled/ruined Savage, so lets delay NM in future as if that changes anything; or Savage offers no incentive because the gear is not worth the effort.

It's become so very boring to read over and over because it all appears to me to boil down to people who either wore themsrlves out grinding gear in NM Alexander forgetting that it was their choice, or people who claim to want a challenge but then say there is no incentiveror running Alex Savage.

What are you even talking about?
Since when is having ilvl 190 for Savage Alexander overgearing it? Have you even tried the fight? Seen the fight?
I would love anyone to do it without Normal Alexander gear.

Since you only need to complete Normal Mode once to run Savage mode, evry additional time you run Normal mode is a choise you make. It is not mandatory to run Alex Normal to gear up for asavage mode, it's simply a quicker path than accumulating tomes. The point is, you want it now, not later so you choose to grind Alexander Normal for gear.

All I am saying is that requiremend to do Savage Alexander is Alexander Normal gear (later replaced with some Eso and Savage pieces), how can you even speak about overgearing it when the fight has been released on 3.0 and we are still on 3.0.

I wasn't referring to overgearing Alexander I was simply pointing out that the frustration some appear to have is that Alexander Savage is too difficult in their current gear and so they either wait, obtain gear gradually, and then run it when appriopriately geared, or grind Normal mode. Point being that more casual players have had to show anythin up to 18 months of patience so that they are adequately geared (effectively overgearing the content to reduce the difficiculty) to take on coil. Expecting raiders to wait a couple of months to obtain gear adequate for their skill level hardly seems severe by comparison. I'll be rocking gear from 4.X before I can try Alex Savage, should I complain about the length of My gear grind?

EDIT: Or I am completely fine with i190 being requirement for Savage if there are more ways to get i190 than from Alex Normal. ,)
Eso is not an option as having full ESO set would completely postpone any raiding for months.

So, there is in fact an option other than grinding Normal, it just takes toolong for your liking, so you intentionally grind the hell out od NM hoping the RNG completes your gear set for your main job, so you can ,ove on to Savage. But, by your own words, there is an option, but you personally discount it becauseyou don't want to be patient. Thanks for confirming what I was writing about.