Strongest Job Lorewise?

[Krylo]

Man, I don't know. Who's more powerful, the guy who hits a dragon with a giant axe, or the guy who cold clocks the dragon across the face for more damage than the giant axe?

I mean, I'm just saying, there's only one job that can kill primals, dragons, and whatever else on Eorzea with a backhand.

[Colorful]

The fact alone that he was able to do that is all the information you need. The only other person we know of to become a primal was Lady Iceheart, and she wasn't even a fraction of the same strength. Furthermore, he was holding Bahamut back before he even became Phoenix, and cast a powerful binding spell.

I know very little about the lore, but again, wasn't the binding spell that powerful due to the assistance of other Scions and the prayers of Eorzea? I'm not implying that Louisoix isn't incredibly powerful, but against assitance he'd be no more than a feather in comparison to Bahamut, the only people of holding back Bahamut would be the other Elder Primals, the now extinct(?) Allagans, and likely Midgardsormr in his original form. The power of the primal summoned is also directly tied into the prayers received, Ysayle had a fairly small cult of followers, while Louisoix had almost the entirety of Eorzea.

But regardless, the fact that he able to become powerful speaks volumes, but you say speak as if White & Black Mages are limiting easily attainable power, when in reality if they weren't "limiting" themselves very few could achieve that power, Shantotto being the only one who has from what I'm aware of. But again, I don't know too much about the lore of White Mages and Black Mages, so do correct me if I'm wrong.

[Martin_Arcainess]

Blacksmith, hes hammer destorys all! He's so awesome he dosnt need a job class to be the strongest, but if it did it would be A Thor class, he mastery over thunder and lightning would make even Ramoo jealous!

[GunsBlazing]

scholar is technically summoner lite. That fairy is created based on the same principles as a summoner's egi--it's a portion of the caster's own soul. Theoretically they can summon bigger things, but SCH in Nym only focused on supporting the WARs in the royal marines.

This is absolutely incorrect. You are literally GIVEN the fairy at the end of the first Scholar quest. You do not summon it yourself, it is tied to the Soul of the Scholar. Alka Zolka basically says, "Ain't no marauder got time for this, it's all you," and gives you the stone (Obviously because he didn't want to deal with the fairies, himself). You do not have a spell in lore to call these fairies, they are merely tied to an item you possess. Alka Zolka could have had the fairies if he kept the stone. Summoning is ENTIRELY different. Lore wise, scholar is weak. Again, intelligence =/= strength. Intelligence in battle is more about how efficient you use the strength that you have.

Man, I don't know. Who's more powerful, the guy who hits a dragon with a giant axe, or the guy who cold clocks the dragon across the face for more damage than the giant axe?

Technically, Monk's strength comes from hitting more times, quicker. Their individual hits aren't very strong. Go ahead and try to crit harder than a properly utilized fell cleave on monk!

[Eboncast3]

Weakest class woud technically be Red Mage, for it in and of itself is a jack of all trades yet a master of none. (and yes i know that the class isnt in game, but i think im right.)

[Belhi]

SCH's didn't have raw power. A number of the classes don't rely on raw power but rather versatility and what you clever use of the power you have. This is a point I make about MCH. MCH use magitek and unlike the Garleans, Ishgardian magitek integrates a Machinists own Aether into the tech allowing them to make their tech adaptable and more efficient. Its in it's infancy but in a way MCH are literally gun mages. If they can use Aesthetically charged tech the potential things they can do with it is pretty interesting.

Its worth remembering about BRDs as well that they aren't just singing nice songs. Their song is magical. There is a reason it drains their mana. This is actually pretty established in FF14. Do the lvl 60 BRD quest to get a prime and quite obvious example.

I guess the real question here is how are we defining strength? Raw power? Potential strength of application? Adaptability?

[Veerne]

If we were theorize maximum potential, Machinist could be easily the most powerful by creating an army of Ultima Weapons, which would simply absorb any spells and summons flung at them.

[AlphaSonic]

I think Lady Iceheart on her own was more powerful than Louisoix. She did the same as Midgardsorm on her own.

[Felis]

This, ironically and paradoxically, translates to players as:
"The only way you can play MCH is by first leveling another class to 50, and saving the world by beating the Garleans, several primals, and an Allagan weapon that was tampered with by creatures that want to destroy the planet. But anyone can totally do it, you're just lowering yourself here."

MCH story is dumb.

the marked one is for the access to ishgard. But machinist can learn everybody in Ishhgard who is too weak for the other classes/jobs.

[Colorful]

I think Lady Iceheart on her own was more powerful than Louisoix. She did the same as Midgardsorm on her own.

[3.0 Spoilers]

She just damaged the airship to delay them from reaching Asyz Lla didn't she? Midgardsormr destroyed it and is still alive.