AST cards in raid

[Kerrigen]

Bole is as superfluous or useful as Eye for an Eye. It's not something anyone should be relying on, but it helps stabilizing things when it happens. The only thing separating it from E4E is it has an opportunity cost gated by RNG (and then again it's guaranteed mitigation vs. proc).

Big things are made of a lot of small things, and that should be an AST's motto when it comes to cards.

[Raminax]

Eye for an Eye affects the damage the entire raid takes due to the effect actually reducing the damage the boss does.

I might not like the roundabout method Eye for an Eye uses for its activation, but Bole is, charitably speaking, pretty unimpressive in comparison.

[Kerrigen]

Again, you're not (ever) relying on Eye for raidwide damage either, you just throw it, hope it's going to proc and mitigate incoming damage either way. And it flat out doesn't work if there's no physical damage on your tank at all. Again, big things etc. It's fine to not use it but every bit helps with harder content.

I'm not saying to use every and any Bole, simply suggesting small things may and will add up so considering them in the heat of things at least holds some value.

And I say this as someone who RRs and shuffles most Boles, Ewers, Spires and Spears because I like my Balances as much as the next guy.

[Raminax]

That's fine. I personally think the OP is exaggerating with anything but Balance and Arrow being borderline useless, but I also think others are exaggerating the value of the other cards too. They're nice, just not as generally applicable as Balance and Arrow.

You could say we have Hyperbole going on in here! Am I right?

...I'll see myself out.

[Seraphyel]

My Astrologian is just 51, but I use my cards mostly like this:

4-man dungeons:

Balance & Arrow : Spread

Spear & Ewer : Shuffle

Spire & Bole : Royal Road

My main goal is to get Spire / Bole for the Royal Road and then to use Arrow / Balance for a group-buff. I don't know if this is the way to go at 60 but I thought this would be the best way to use cards.

[NorthernLadMSP]

Eye for an Eye affects the damage the entire raid takes due to the effect actually reducing the damage the boss does.

I might not like the roundabout method Eye for an Eye uses for its activation, but Bole is, charitably speaking, pretty unimpressive in comparison.

Uh no. Bole is a guaranteed 10% damage reduction to the recipient every single time it's used. E4E is purely up to RNG, and the percentage of it proc'ing is only 20%. If it doesn't proc, it doesn't mitigate any damage.

[Raminax]

Uh no. Bole is a guaranteed 10% damage reduction to the recipient every single time it's used. E4E is purely up to RNG, and the percentage of it proc'ing is only 20%. If it doesn't proc, it doesn't mitigate any damage.

The chance is high enough and the duration long enough for Eye for an Eye to activate at least once, in my experience at least. If you cast Eye for an Eye when Ravana spends the next 20 seconds channeling some Liberation, you've really only got yourself to blame (And in that case Bole would also be useless 66% of its duration anyway).

If I'd have to choose, I'd always pick Eye for an Eye, maybe preferring Bole for encounters like T4/A2 because Eye for an Eye might take a while to affect everything.

[Kaisersoke]

Like i said, argue all you want and say that my input isnt "good" but many other people seem to disagree with you also. Obviously the more direct cards are stronger, thats not what this thread is about. Its about how ridiculously shallow your chart is and how little value you place on cards that are not those. Additionally, to the longer post, i guess AST is just not for you if you dont want soem sort of strategic planning to your cards, because any good AST worth their salt will tell you its not good to throw away cards constantly for the "better ones" and that its a bigger dps increase to just work with what you get.

[Raminax]

Additionally, to the longer post, i guess AST is just not for you if you dont want soem sort of strategic planning to your cards, because any good AST worth their salt will tell you its not good to throw away cards constantly for the "better ones" and that its a bigger dps increase to just work with what you get.

I question how in the world you got that from my post, but hey! I could be nice and clarify my position instead of being snide.

Not appreciating all cards equally doesn't mean I always Royal Road/Shuffle anything besides Balance and Arrow. Despite hating on Bole and Spear for an entire paragraph each and a few more posts, I still admitted to feeling their effects in certain circumstances.

[Lyrica_Ashtine]

I question how in the world you got that from my post, but hey! I could be nice and clarify my position instead of being snide.

Not appreciating all cards equally doesn't mean I always Royal Road/Shuffle anything besides Balance and Arrow. Despite hating on Bole and Spear for an entire paragraph each and a few more posts, I still admitted to feeling their effects in certain circumstances.

He wasn't responding to you :P It's from a chain of replies starting from this post where the OP is "defending" his silly chart - Which seemingly represents his playstyle as Astrologian and which Kaisersoke (and me as well) deemed extremely shallow.