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    Suggestion: Server Without the Duty Finder

    Forgive me if this has been asked before. What would you think of having a single, new server in FFXIV with the Duty Finder removed?

    Sure I don't use it now(as a cross server match-up anyway), but everyone else is; tempted by the shorter wait times.

    I miss the old days of stronger, closely-knit communities where it was easier to make friends and people had reputations to uphold if they wanted to get in groups. If there was no DF, then everyone on the server would be using PF and/or communicating more. Don't have time to wait? Stay on the rest of the servers with DF.

    I doubt it will ever happen, but it seems like something that would be easy to implement.

    Thoughts?
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    If I didn't already have friends and fc mates on my server, I'd transfer. Sounds like a good community could foster there.
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    I like the DF.
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    Last edited by Fevelle; 09-27-2015 at 01:36 AM.

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    I wouldn't be interested. Sure, it may be nicer with current content but for everything else? Sometimes I just want to pop a trial roulette and play whatever it gives me, or if I'm leveling another class and queue for some low level dungeons. I'm not particularly interested in the hassle of creating a party, but I know some people are.

    Why not? I'd stick to Tonberry, but if it has no effect on current servers I have no reason to oppose the idea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LandricFrey View Post
    Forgive me if this has been asked before. What would you think of having a single, new server in FFXIV with the Duty Finder removed?

    Sure I don't use it now(as a cross server match-up anyway), but everyone else is; tempted by the shorter wait times.

    I miss the old days of stronger, closely-knit communities where it was easier to make friends and people had reputations to uphold if they wanted to get in groups. If there was no DF, then everyone on the server would be using PF and/or communicating more. Don't have time to wait? Stay on the rest of the servers with DF.

    I doubt it will ever happen, but it seems like something that would be easy to implement.

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    Ask yourself why the DF was put in place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saccharin View Post
    Ask yourself why the DF was put in place.
    Removing the duty finder may not be the right course of action. The problem is that MMOs have become increasingly anti-social. Most games u go from 1-max lvl without ever talking to others.

    What developers need to address is the growing lack of social community in games. Having to talk to people to find a party meant those who were successful at this found good guilds and had a great time, but it certainly had its draw backs. Going back to where it was a chore to find a party may not be a good solution. I would like to see guilds play a specific role in the world and level up in unique ways. And maybe have the same thing for friend lists where the more you play with specific people the more bonuses you get.

    So while you may think someone wanting to remove the duty finder is silly, keep in mind the reason they request it is because the growing isolation in MMO communities.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abelli View Post
    Having to talk to people to find a party meant those who were successful at this found good guilds and had a great time
    And those who were bad at it grew increasingly frustrated with the game until they quit.

    There are many reasons you might not be good at socializing. There's social anxiety for one, maybe you type really slowly, maybe you're dyslexic and don't want to appear stupid through your terrible spelling. Maybe you only read and understand English without being able to put together a sentence because it's not your first, second or even third language, that is the case for a lot of people in Europe. Maybe you just like to play the game as it is without having to jump through hoops for hours just to get to what you enjoy, eg. dungeons.

    Accessibility through the Duty Finder is NOT a bad thing.
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    Ah official forums, where better to find the lowest common denominator. Trying to argue with me about how good the duty finder is for the game when I stated removing it wasn't a good solution. And another telling me to get a FC without even checking my profile. I would have a more fruitful conversation about MMOs with a rock.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moonleg View Post

    There are many reasons you might not be good at socializing. [...]
    Using voicechat fixes all this, save for not speaking English. I'm no fan of voicechat, but I used it during endgame content in ARR. Teamspeak is pretty accessible (you can even get it on your phone), and Discord is free. True, others will have reasons for not really wanting to do this...but I think that learning to socialize with different types of people and growing past people's awkward/stunted social skills (or growing past them yourself) is a very good thing to do. Even if it's done online with people you've never met, growth is still growth.

    The base game would need a community focused redesign to make the Duty finder not required, I'd love it if so.

    Usefullness and reasoning to be in a free company other needs a boost
    Open world content needs to be much more than hunts and FATES
    Open world Dungeons
    Dangerous overworld areas
    Moving from one area to another is more difficult than a button press
    I agree on all points except the open world dungeons one. I quite like that dungeons are instanced. Not saying that I would hate them to be in-world (it would remind me of FFXII, which is a good thing), but I've already seen more than enough bots in my instances. I really don't want them charging into dungeons and ruining the experience without the ability to remove them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abelli View Post
    Removing the duty finder may not be the right course of action. The problem is that MMOs have become increasingly anti-social. Most games u go from 1-max lvl without ever talking to others.

    What developers need to address is the growing lack of social community in games. Having to talk to people to find a party meant those who were successful at this found good guilds and had a great time, but it certainly had its draw backs. Going back to where it was a chore to find a party may not be a good solution. I would like to see guilds play a specific role in the world and level up in unique ways. And maybe have the same thing for friend lists where the more you play with specific people the more bonuses you get.

    So while you may think someone wanting to remove the duty finder is silly, keep in mind the reason they request it is because the growing isolation in MMO communities.
    Complete nonsense, mmos are no less social than before, try joining an FC.

    What you're really asking for is downtime, the only reason you had time to chat in old mmo's is because of the ridiculous amount of time you had to spend waiting, either to get a party or during a party waiting for healers mp to regen etc.
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    Last edited by Kitano123; 09-27-2015 at 01:53 AM.

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