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    Quote Originally Posted by Shining_Tiger_Excalibur View Post
    Case in point: I was actually farming Blood Dragons today and thinking of how my suggestions would come into play damage dealt wise. I figured the hardest I'll be able to hit for (all strength accessories) would be around 3200 on a critical hit with my combo finisher Royal Authority AND with Fight or Flight active at the time. I can't even hit for HALF the damage of other tank jobs when I'm trying, even with adding my suggested damage increase. It's no wonder Paladins are literally performing at half the potential...I remember a time in 2.x when Paladin and Warrior did competitive damage as off tanks and somewhat competitive damage as main tanks. This clearly isn't the case anymore.....
    MNKs rarely crit above 4k; DRGs can crit for above 6k more frequently. I guarantee you DRGS don't do 50% more damage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RapBreon View Post
    MNKs rarely crit above 4k; DRGs can crit for above 6k more frequently. I guarantee you DRGS don't do 50% more damage.
    I couldn't agree more, the numbers have been fudged at some point. When you take into account all the data logging services showing that Paladins aren't even close to doing competitive damage in Sword Oath/Shield Oath while having a Ninja or Warrior assist them in DPS/Aggro management, in addition to the issues with Paladin kit, the only thing you can do is shake your head in wonder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shining_Tiger_Excalibur View Post
    I couldn't agree more, the numbers have been fudged at some point. When you take into account all the data logging services showing that Paladins aren't even close to doing competitive damage in Sword Oath/Shield Oath while having a Ninja or Warrior assist them in DPS/Aggro management, in addition to the issues with Paladin kit, the only thing you can do is shake your head in wonder.
    See, I'm not sure you understood my post. Or you're employing the old 'look like I'm agreeing, but not actually agree to trick them into agreeing with me!'.

    Because I was pointing out that comparing maximum crits as a way to compare average DPS is...flawed. You don't seem to be acknowledging that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RapBreon View Post
    See, I'm not sure you understood my post. Or you're employing the old 'look like I'm agreeing, but not actually agree to trick them into agreeing with me!'.

    Because I was pointing out that comparing maximum crits as a way to compare average DPS is...flawed. You don't seem to be acknowledging that.
    Oh, my apologies for the misunderstanding. In light of that information I feel some clarification on my side is needed, the whole 'half the ability' thing applies to the toolkit Paladins have. I have problems adequately saying what I need to in that it makes sense in my head but not on the screen. What you guys don't see is that original post took me an entire day to actually put together. It's a problem I'm working on and as you can see I still need practice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shining_Tiger_Excalibur View Post
    Oh, my apologies for the misunderstanding. In light of that information I feel some clarification on my side is needed, the whole 'half the ability' thing applies to the toolkit Paladins have. I have problems adequately saying what I need to in that it makes sense in my head but not on the screen. What you guys don't see is that original post took me an entire day to actually put together. It's a problem I'm working on and as you can see I still need practice.
    Oh no worries, I was just seriously confused by your response. Tis no problemo.
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