Am I doing something wrong or is there somewhere...better for me??

[Deebs15]

It's even worse if you're going into DF as a healer or tank, because anything that kinda sorts goes somewhat wrong is automatically your fault.

That might have been the reason I stopped using PLD as my main. I'll go back in with a fresh outlook and see if I can't make nice with some people who want to me run new things (new for me at least)

[AskaRay]

That might have been the reason I stopped using PLD as my main. I'll go back in with a fresh outlook and see if I can't make nice with some people who want to me run new things (new for me at least)

Yeah tanking I feel is the most "stressful" job in the DF.
Honestly I won't go in DF by myself as tank unless I really, really need to.

[Makeda]

You start to see how this game has sort of a rhythm with content and when people are playing what. Maybe when the next expansion comes out and I can learn everything at the same time as everyone else it'll be a little different.

Sadly it is unlikely to work like this.

I've been in many MMOs and the pattern repeats every time.

There's always a beta, closed or open, and people always get a massive guide ready and... either break the NDA and post it, or post it the moment the NDA is lifted.

- Even if they post that massive guide the day AFTER the expansion goes live... by the time people hit that content, even if that very same day, you will see folks getting booted out of groups for not knowing the content already. Sometimes even if a guide has not been posted - if you're a tank you can get booted for not having learned it during the closed beta you didn't even have access to...

Its actually BETTER right now than it tends to be around the time when expansions launch in MMOs. New expansions and young MMOs bring all the worst-attitude players back into active play... where they zerg stuff like crazy, find and exploit glitches, exploit bugs in trading systems, and pay a LOT to RMT sellers... fueling a lot of account hacking, accusations, and flame wars...

I've been booted out of groups before for refusing to use TOS-violating exploits. In fact in Guild Wars 2 such booting is the norm anytime someone finds such an exploit...
- and the people who have that kind of motive, are most active around launch time of new content...

Right now is the time you want to find a nice friendly guild, and start building up a long term friendship with them, so that when all the really amazingly nasty players come back next major release of something... you can play with your buddies and ignore it all.

The worst thing you can do for your morale, is to be stuck guildless (free-company-less) and friendless in a new or old MMO around launch time of new content. That is a very quick path to burnout and bad vibes.

Start friending people now... and insulate yourself.

[bounddreamer]

I highly recommend Party Finder to put together your own party from time to time to clear content you need. I'm always happy to lend my axe to help someone get a clear. I'll even defend your right to watch cutscenes. I've organized an entire party so that a new player could watch the entirety of Castrum and Praetorium without being forced to skip.

We're out there and we're happy to help. We just need to know you need us!

[DPZ2]

Work through the story line at a pace that makes you comfortable. Many of the folk who are impatient in instances are trying to complete gearing up for end-game content. They're bored and frustrated that the rush to get to end-game means there's no more content for them until the next patch.

Look for a Free Company to join. Being able to chat with others in-game can make your game go more smoothly, as you'll have all levels of experience on which you can draw. Running instances with FC members can also be a lot of fun. Ask for tips, find study guides in the forums, look at videos for help in getting better at your class/job. [Also realize that videos of class/job rotations from a year ago are probably only accurate until you hit level 50, then look for newer videos].

Try out other classes and jobs in-game as well. You may find Scholar suits you perfectly, you may find you really like the playstyle of Bard or Dragoon (or Warrior, or ...) even better.

Have fun in the game.

[AskaRay]

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Ahhh yeah I remember the first day World of Darkness was out, maybe two hours after the server had gone live again...
"What do you mean you guys don't know how to beat Cerberus???"

luckily I think it was a joke because they stayed quiet for the rest of the run. However real people like that do exist

[Deebs15]

AskaRay I just notice your tag below....LOCKE COLE WAS THE MAN!


This feeeeells slightly like therapy for me but it's really helping my perception of this game. From all your comments, everyone seems to understand the general pros and cons of mmos and have learned to ride them out and enjoy the game regardless. What Makeda said about new content bringing old bitterish players back was something i ran into a lot and am maybe still seeing.

I love this game and almost every role to play...even gathering and crafting. I need to put my big boy pants on and stand my ground more often. 7 months may not make me a vet but i'm confident I know what i'm doing...unless i'm learning new stuff then I might want some friendly faces around

[File2ish]

We're out there and we're happy to help. We just need to know you need us!

This right here.

And there are a lot of us who mostly do stuff through the DF. Just need to be lucky to get us lol.

[OPneedNerfs]

When the good, nice players get too many bad players who "play the way I want" and go out of their way to underperform, they eventually go for the "find someone competent" and run almost everything with them.

It doesn't help with said bad players also asking people who play right to stay out of the df or "get used to it".

What we end up with is a df with a larger pool of bad players who also have a short fuse as they are starting to lose their carries, especially if someone is new and still learning.

The only advice I can give you, OP, is to make some friends/join an fc that will run content with you instead of relying solely on DF. Otherwise, build up tolerance against whiners/haters but definitely always seek to improve yourself so you don't end up as the "bad player".

[File2ish]

i'm confident I know what i'm doing...unless i'm learning new stuff then I might want some friendly faces around

Would just edit my last post but mobile site and too lazy to switch to desktop site >.> but:

A friendly face is always nice to have, but you also need to try not to read the chat with a bias of tone. There are plenty of times where people try to give advice kindly, but come off as condescending to the person learning because of word choice. And if the new person responds negatively to the advice, nice guy won't be so nice anymore.