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    FallenArisen0990's Avatar
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    Anarista Tarnyang
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    Yeah I only cared about the Story for Coil and said screw the gear. With Vertical Gear Progression, there is no incentive to even bother with getting the gear other than for glamour because come the next Even Number Patch, it's replaced straightaway.
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    Subucnimorning's Avatar
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    Normal mode would have less of a negative effect if it was released maybe a month AFTER savage and savage tuned around i180+ gear instead of i190+, then people progressing on savage wouldn't have such a big burn out of doing the same raid multiple times like that problem WoW faces with normal/heroic/mythic.
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    Player dragorian's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Subucnimorning View Post
    Normal mode would have less of a negative effect if it was released maybe a month AFTER savage and savage tuned around i180+ gear instead of i190+, then people progressing on savage wouldn't have such a big burn out of doing the same raid multiple times like that problem WoW faces with normal/heroic/mythic.
    We are going to need a full ilv 200 to clear ark and 210 to make it easier
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    Quinton Lightblaze
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    Quote Originally Posted by dragorian View Post
    We are going to need a full ilv 200 to clear ark and 210 to make it easier
    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...You legitimately made me laugh.
    It will probably require i180 to queue for, but probably require at least i160 to win.

    Honestly what I think SE should've done is made the upcoming island exploration some kind of midteir open area raid and take out AlexNM or make it so AlexNM doesn't drop gear or Savage gear is i215
    Put in a very good story, maybe about an ancient beastmen tribe or a lost tribe of the Vanu Vanu. Maybe about them summoning an Elder Primal, maybe Quetzalcoatl to match the Vanu Vanu theme.
    Put in parts where you have to a have an Alliance. For example against high level bosses or against a battalion of enemies.
    Make mobs about the level of CT saga. Make mini bosses about the difficulty of BCoB difficulty or a little less. Make bosses a little harder than BCoB.
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    Last edited by zcrash970; 09-26-2015 at 08:55 AM.

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    Thanatos Ravensweald
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    I think they should make Savage more hardcore. If you die in Savage you should lose "1" piece of gear randomly. Or you have to go collect your corpse and if you don't get it or crash you lose all your gear.

    This game is very casual. Even the hardest content is casual. You have no penalties for losing in this game.
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    Last edited by Nektulos-Tuor; 09-26-2015 at 05:23 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    I think they should make Savage more hardcore. If you die in Savage you should lose "1" piece of gear randomly. Or you have to go collect your corpse and if you don't get it or crash you lose all your gear.

    This game is very casual. Even the hardest content is casual. You have no penalties for losing in this game.
    Go play PSO on DC then. When you die, you drop not only your Meseta (Money) but your weapon as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FallenArisen0990 View Post
    Go play PSO on DC then. When you die, you drop not only your Meseta (Money) but your weapon as well.
    Strategy:
    Throw your face at an encounter until you lose enough to learn how the encounter works. Exploit the encounter that never changes ever and grind over and over for loot that will get replaced in a month.

    You pretty much zerg a powerful monster until it dies. Really fun content, really. Nothing about the encounter ever changes, you can't fight it any differently and you have to follow the script. There is no other ways to beat the monster and since its in an instance it never affects the world around you.

    People throw around the word "Casual" way too much, when every single content in this game is casual.
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    Last edited by Nektulos-Tuor; 09-26-2015 at 05:27 AM.

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    Why can't i be the only one with top gear waaaaaaaaaaaaa who cares who has what
    new 24 man raid will drop upgradable items to make our ESO 210 + new gear set from the 24 man raid and the new relic will drop so no point on doing savage at all imo...
    Did SE act say this? and if so can i get a link?
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    Last edited by SakuraMidori; 09-26-2015 at 05:55 AM.

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    I think a better solution is what happened in WoW with LFR.

    Just introduce the normal mode shortly after the savage version, (say, a couple of weeks after, basically a reverse of the order it came out this time). For 2 reasons;
    1.) Those who really want to experience the story first, will have extra motivation to do so.
    2.) Gear in the Normal Mode won't be needed for early progression in the Savage version. As any possible/reasonably-possible ilevel increase you can get, is expected to be earned for any serious raiding static.
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    Nadirah Serenity
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    Raiden
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    Quote Originally Posted by CosmicKirby View Post
    I think a better solution is what happened in WoW with LFR.

    Just introduce the normal mode shortly after the savage version, (say, a couple of weeks after, basically a reverse of the order it came out this time). For 2 reasons;
    1.) Those who really want to experience the story first, will have extra motivation to do so.
    2.) Gear in the Normal Mode won't be needed for early progression in the Savage version. As any possible/reasonably-possible ilevel increase you can get, is expected to be earned for any serious raiding static.
    That would have required them to make Savage doable in 180 gear.

    it wasn't designed for 180 as it is.
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