NO MORE ALEXANDER(NM)!

[Ercapote]

before you start reading: Since I realized with this threat that people can read but not understand what they are reading at the same time here is a few things before anyone decides to go all out without understanding this thread This is not about gating Story to anyone nor is to eliminate NM or something alike. It is about making SAVAGE desirable.

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I get that alexander (NM) was made for people to be allowed to see the lore behind it and (SV) for the challenge.....F@#$ that!

(IMO) NM killed SAVAGE or any desire to attempt to beat it, COILS and the story behind it + gear was what motivates me to push me and my group every day to overcome this hard challenges and IT WAS SATISFAYING .

there was nothing better to look up that incredible CS of [SPOILER ALERT!] LUIXOIS vs BAHAMUT after t12 or revealing all the ending and what was behind everything at the end of T13 hell even seen bahamut behind the first coil was amazing.

Also the gear...what where they thinking giving the same piece of gear set for NM and HM only Dye-able? it is a huge let down since before enyone who had a piece of TANK chest from FCOB was impressive and made me drop my jaw before I could get it....
now I see alexander gear and I can only but feel it old and uninteresting since everyone and their mother has them...

whit these 2 things gone and have no sense of achievement nor reward there's no reason or motivation for me to jump anymore on SV since I already have the gear from NM already saw the story and I will just replace it with the next set of 24 man dungeon or ESO...

please make raid interesting again... people are doing savage because it's considered the current raid and not the "extra challenging" raid, NM was a little joke that could be cleared on the first day...


suggestion: I just tough about what can be done to improve this, maybe.... MAKE ALTERNATIVE or EXTENDED CS that reveals just a little more information of what's coming next, kinda like every game HARD mode that unlocks secret ending that will be a + for me. and maybe not dropping NM gear just leave the gear for (SV)


edit: I want to address one thing tho....Some people with reason around here have made some points....COIL was directly attached to the main story of 1.x and even mentioned on the main story of 2.x but ALEXANDER has no ties to the main story, hence making it a secondary story that not everyone needs to see it in other to get what will happen or happened in the main event of the game, so not 100% need to see it... NOW some smart people will come here and say million trash, then let's talk about all the stories behind every Class/Job. why do I need to lvl up to 60 every single class job to see the stories behind them? but I don't see anyone complaining about it... simply because it's not tied to the main story IS NOT RELEVANT is just there as a bonus for the leveling process.... Alexander is just the same


Update Coment:

In Coil you were progressing through content you hadn't seen yet. In Alexander your progressing through content you've beaten multiple times already. Just for that reason alone Coil was way better than Alexander. Forget Alexander for now. Can we just get a little bit of challenging content that isn't a rehashed version of stuff on duty finder? Am I an asshole for wanting that? I guess so I'm going to go cry in a corner now because I'm already bored of Heavensward.

no but we are the assholes, selfish, egocentric raiders who want all for ourself... In this threat I've come to realize how Hypocrite our community is for the part of the "casuals" even tho I don't consider myself "Hardcore". I like how I see them using this words (selfish,egocentric or saying that we just want to show off[e-peen]) and that focusing on the hardcore on a content that is designed to be "HARD" which only consist on the probably less than 5% of the entire game will hurt the game, that it's selfish for us to want to have a motivation to do this extremely hard content yet the other 95% of the game is as casual and accessible as it gets, BUT we are the selfish, for wanting this small 5% not to be worthless or be so redundant even tho they still have all the rest of the 95%...yeah we are selfish... feel free to look up the meaning of hypocrisy... I don't know where this community of gamers came from who believe everything needs to be handed on a silver plate for them, content is hard? "git gud" every good game has it's hard content that in order to beat it you need to put your best on it, that's where games are entertaining, if you are a TRUE FF FAN then you know that as good as story is, every ending has a boss that will rip your soul for some and for some will be a walk for others but not because the ones that can't beat complain they will tune it down and f#$% the ones the enjoyed the challenge. seriously is like a bunch of sensitive people just took over the world for past decade...

catering 5% of the game for 5% of the community won't hurt the other 95%, if you don't like the challenge don't go for it, it's your choice no one is blocking you, no one is getting advantage over anyone since anyone can just gear up just as good by the time the next patch come, no one will have better chances to beat it we are free to do whatever we want so there's no exclusivity of any sort this is not wow. people should stop barking and start thinking before they write.

do we get to see story that other don't? yes we work hard for it, as well as you and anyone can work hard for it too.

do we get exclusive gear? fck yeah! we work hard for it as well as you an anyone can.

that's the reward, and motivation to do the hard work, you think is not fair? then why is it fair that I need to work hard to achieve something that you can easily get?

and on a serious note, some around here need to check themselves calling people arrogant, selfish, egocentric, etc... they can't stop and realize that they are being exactly what they are predicting 95% telling 5% that they are selfish just for wanting 5% of the cake is exactly the opposite of what they believe they are...

I leave the rest to you to think about that...

[Moonleg]

TL;DR: Dirty filthy casuals are in MY game! Take them away so I have room to stroke my ginormous e-peen!

[Myrri]

TL;DR: Dirty filthy casuals are in MY game! Take them away so I have room to stroke my ginormous e-peen!

E-penis is worst penis.

[Ercapote]

TL;DR: Dirty filthycasuals are in MY game! Take them away so I have room to stroke my ginormous e-peen!

you are making it more selfish than what the meaning of my post is, I do know that there are casual players out there... but it's called RAID for a reason, it's supposed to be the hardest content in the game if you going to step in here you know what's coming for you. so for our pov the people who actually raid, I'm just asking for a motivation, to keep pushing myself to come everyday and do this content, is that so bad? there's no sense of satisfaction when I beat A1,2,3S my group is taking a break since we all got bored of doing things we already accomplished with look been the same and no lore or anything that make me look up for the next fight aside from stress we stopped and I don't miss it tbh, I currently find myself doing my dailies and logging out leveling classes slowly since we aint getting nothing new till November...

suggestion: I just tough about what can be done to improve this, maybe.... MAKE ALTERNATIVE or EXTENDED CT that reveals just a little more information of what's coming next, kinda like every game HARD mode that unlocks secret ending that will be a + for me. and maybe not dropping NM gear just leave the gear for (SV)

[Jim_Berry]

i agree with OP but I also think that we need to get rid of statics. the Static life is terrible and full of drama.

I see why statics are needed, though. Unfortunately, statics are why I now play casually and don't log in every day like I used to.

[Taei]

i agree with OP but I also think that we need to get rid of statics. the Static life is terrible and full of drama.

[FoxyAreku]

i agree with OP but I also think that we need to get rid of statics. the Static life is terrible and full of drama.

Incorrect. Anything is better than playing with randoms you don't know, and doing challenging content with friends is the best thing this game has to offer.

[Taei]

Incorrect. Anything is better than playing with randoms you don't know, and doing challenging content with friends is the best thing this game has to offer.

Sorry to ruin your perception, but most statics are not groups of friends, you should pay attention to your PF more often. Getting rid of statics and unlocking content actually would allow you to play with more than 7 other friends

[PriscillaX]

Sorry to ruin your perception, but most statics are not groups of friends, you should pay attention to your PF more often. Getting rid of statics and unlocking content actually would allow you to play with more than 7 other friends

yea..... no this sounds terrible consdiering half the people you would end up partying with will ether do no dmg or be shit in general as has been seen in most of the game and will end up with very high tension 95% of the time and more drama will happen. with 7 friends you can be sure there going to dmg and beable to do the content and you can also turst your 7 friends, 7 randoms might as will be treated like they have aids that can be caughty just by being near them.

[FoxyAreku]

Sorry to ruin your perception, but most statics are not groups of friends, you should pay attention to your PF more often. Getting rid of statics and unlocking content actually would allow you to play with more than 7 other friends

Statics are about the people more than the content. I have run statics on multiple occassions in multiple MMOs, running a static with a few friends now in fact, and I can tell you right now, if you don't get along with the people in your group then you ain't gonna get jack done in game.

Using party finder to fill a spot when someone can't play anymore really doesn't prove anything, honestly I'd kick someone from a static if no one got along with them even if they were good, and most static leaders are the same. You don't want a douche in your group bringing the mood down and ruining the fun, you want someone nice you can be friends with.

Sorry you've apparently had bad experiences, I hope I never run into your luck. A consistent group of friends makes everything more fun.

PLEOPLE! it is not and NEVER WAS about TAKING OUT NM OR GATING STORY BEHIND SV. it was about not having a reason to do SAVAGE since NM already gives everything you can get for less effort and time making it undesirable to do. hence I was asking for a reason to do this content.

NM gives item level 210 gear? News to me.

Raiding is always about and should always be about the social experience above all though. As stated to the person above, clearing difficult content with friends is just tops. But if you don't care for the social experience of raiding or the gear, then the content may just not be for you and you should be happy a story mode exists.