NO MORE ALEXANDER(NM)!

[Astral145]

What about the majority of raiders that have very little to do right now? Casual players have alex Nm. Hardcore raiders have alex savage 1-4. What about the larger raiding population, the regular non-hardcore crowd. Are they just supposed to quit the game since the dev team does not care about them? Should they just unsub at this point since they literally will never have any meaningful raid content to do with this paradigm?

You're generalizing and it makes your points come off as presumptuous. Most of these "salty hardcore raiders" Will not even get to try upgrading left side eso items before 3.1.

LOL hardcore players get savage and casuals to midcore get NM.... Whats the problem we all get the same amount of content. Stop being so salty. Casuals and midcore get i190 - i200 with no options to upgrade. Hardcore gets i210 + i210 weapons + dye the raid gear and have the ability to upgrade Eso gear..... You act like you don't get anything.

Why do dis? You get what you want... an awesome raid for your level of enjoyment. Next time around don't go crazy with NM raids. Run it once to get it done then wait for savage because it wont be that far off. 3.1 introduces the new relics and you will have airship content to do while you wait. Level up other jobs you might want to try in the next savage raid. Make a few relics for those jobs or buy eso gear. Nobody is forcing you to run the heck out of NM raids then go run the heck out of savage mode. Chillaz and let everyone enjoy the game.

[zosia]

LOL hardcore players get savage and casuals to midcore get NM.... Whats the problem we all get the same amount of content. Stop being so salty. Casuals and midcore get i190 - i200 with no options to upgrade. Hardcore gets i210 + i210 weapons + dye the raid gear and have the ability to upgrade Eso gear..... You act like you don't get anything.

Why do dis? You get what you want... an awesome raid for your level of enjoyment. Next time around don't go crazy with NM raids. Run it once to get it done then wait for savage because it wont be that far off. 3.1 introduces the newrelics and you will have airship content to do while you wait. Level up other jobs you might want to try in the next savage raid. Make a few relics for those jobs or buy eso gear. Nobody is forcing you to run the heck out of NM raids then go run the heck out of savage mode. Chillaz and let everyone enjoy the game.

You don't need a static for NM alex, so all midcore statics are pointless? Are you really suggesting that midcore teams just fall back to alex NM, when you can success almost 100% with a df group? That's asinine. Raiding has always been the top of the mountain for MMO's and your suggesting that only 1% of the community should get the raid content relegating the other 99% of the player base to alex NM.

You're assuming that people are actually getting a4s down. One, maybe two, groups on my server recently got a4s down. All these perks you're talking about apply to a fraction of the raiding population.

Also, why is the responsibility on the raiders to consume the content in a particular way to not get burnt out? That's like telling non-raiders "git gud" if you want to see the story. SE dropped the ball. They are PROFESSIONAL game developers, it's their responsibility to design a reward schedule and gear progression in a way that does not burn players out. Blizz can do it with LFR, raiders hardly run LFR now. What's SE's excuse? They made a bad design choice making alex NM a stepping stone to savage, stop being an apologist.

But the good gear is already in Savage....

The problem isn't normal, nor was it ever. It's not normal having loot.

It's that you could rerun a floor as many times as you wanted to get that one drop you needed/wanted.

Savage: drops pages +two items. That should have been normal's loot method.

It is, but you're only getting weapons, dyable left side, twines, and dips if you're clearing a32 and a4s. Both fights are so hard that even the world 1st group, the best players in the world, are saying that it might have been a little over tuned. What else do you need said to you to prove that there is a bunch of problems with alex savage?

[Ryel]

Next time around don't go crazy with NM raids. Run it once to get it done then wait for savage because it wont be that far off. 3.1 introduces the new relics and you will have airship content to do while you wait. Level up other jobs you might want to try in the next savage raid. Make a few relics for those jobs or buy eso gear. Nobody is forcing you to run the heck out of NM raids then go run the heck out of savage mode. Chillaz and let everyone enjoy the game.

You realize you're hitting the bottom when the responses against "This content isn't interesting" range from, "Well you don't have to do this content!" to "Why haven't you done -insert insignificant piece of content here-?"

I hope you do realize that it is against the interests of SE and the developers as a whole for players to not only avoid content entirely, but to also become so bored with it that they unsubscribe from a subscription based MMO right? Like you are aware how this works as a business model correct?

Active subscribers fuel content for everyone, discouraging an active raid community (the community that while not comprised of the largest percentile is actually the most likely to sub for consecutive months) by creating content that has them leaving the game is bad for business.

[Makado]

I lost my motivation honestly. Getting 10 item level extra for no reason and its the exact same looking gear but dyable...meh. Ill pass and wait until something more interesting comes out.

[Nadirah]

Karsten, that's precisely why the loot system in normal sucks ass and contributed to the problem, to the point where I believe that it alone is the cause of like, 90% of the problem.

Gear paths popped up on Reddit immediately.

You *needed* to get those drops, in that order, to get the ideal gear fastest. This meant you burned yourselves out on the content running it a billion times for 5 weeks maxing out your gear because even with Savage out, you weren't filling your slots immediately and most raiders went for weapons first.

[FallenArisen0990]

I think SE anticipated this drought we have and prepared Savage and gear progression to be really be drawn out to "last" to the next patch. I wouldn't be surprise if SE revamps the drops and such to regular standards in 3.2.

[Nerael]

THEI TOOK UHR RAIHD!

Sometimes it's very hard to post a constructive comment when someone is being a totally self-centered, self-entitled *Censored*

On a more serious and constructive note, you post about catering 5% of the content to 5% of the players. Did you hit your head or something? Why not make content for 100% of the player base?
Hard content =/= Exclusive content for raiders.

[Natashio]

All those pictures.

This has to be it. In before the lock guys...

[Nadirah]

Zosia, if you didn't like "farming" it after the first clear, you didn't have to.

I've been raiding in MMOs for over 10 years. If I didn't like farm runs like you seem to think raiders don't like, then I wouldn't be doing it. I wouldn't have been doing it. I wouldn't do it in the future.

I've also never had my teams take breaks in between raid patches.

This is the very first game where running the same raid 20 times a week was night required for gear.

If you were tired of Coil in the first two weeks like you claim to have been with normal Alex, maybe raiding isn't for you.