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  1. #41
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    Gramul's Avatar
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    Eisen Gramul
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sephr View Post
    Your romanticized version is lovely, but the reality is VERY few people (as in, a fraction of even the elite) are going to bother even trying to invest so much time and effort to get to the final materia because it relies so heavily on RNG and the chances of succeeding are ridiculous.
    Good.
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  2. #42
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    feint2021's Avatar
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    Oren Ishii
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    Dungeon drops need to be worth getting as well. It's nice to have alternatives
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zomb View Post
    I think this is the beauty of the system. Everyone can get SOME materia, but only the truly committed will have the best of the best gear. This is the way it should be, everyone will be able to get good enough gear, but the people that really work at it get the greatest rewards. I myself will be one of the people with "some" materia, and I won't have any complaints when I see the guy with multiple in each slot.
    Don't sugar-coat the term for no-lifers.
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  4. #44
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    Gramul's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by EmeraldHill View Post
    Don't sugar-coat the term for no-lifers.
    What's wrong?

    Only have one materea on your equipment? Oh hohoho~
    Hahahahaha.
    HEHEHEHEHE
    [SIZE="5"]HUE HA HE HOHOHO[/SIZE]
    [SIZE="6"]HA[/SIZE] HE [SIZE="5"]HI [/SIZE]HO [SIZE="7"]HU[/SIZE]
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  5. #45
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    Captain Lalafist
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    Be it skill or time required, you still won't be one of the cool guys.

    So it comes down to either "this is too hard QQ" (you're not skilled enough) or "this takes too long QQ" (you're not dedicated enough). Either way you don't have what it takes and are simply unable to deal with the fact.
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  6. #46
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    not sure if it was mentioned but SE balanced the game around only 1 or 2 materia for the sole purpose of having a couple uber geared players on each server because of the super low success rate
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    15 abilities each? what is this... Kindergarten?
    A jack of all trades WHM... what is this 1989?

  7. #47
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    Raikki Zero
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    Forbidden materia is a simple supply/demand situation. If the Tier 4 supply greatly exceeds the demands of people 1-slotting gear, then prices will probably/hopefully drop enough to enable gambling on 2 and 3-slotting it. I don't think anyone would go spend several mil on a materia to have a 7% chance of adding it. In the meantime I think most people will just multiple up on low tier materia and wait it out.

    I agree that it's a bit sad that the entire materia system is just a long grind against a random number generator. But since right now DoL/DoH and spiritbond farming are pretty much 0-skill activities, this was the easiest way to place limits on it. Hopefully they improve on the system, because there's a lot of room to make it better and more enjoyable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gramul View Post
    What's wrong?

    Only have one materea on your equipment? Oh hohoho~
    Hahahahaha.
    HEHEHEHEHE
    [SIZE="5"]HUE HA HE HOHOHO[/SIZE]
    [SIZE="6"]HA[/SIZE] HE [SIZE="5"]HI [/SIZE]HO [SIZE="7"]HU[/SIZE]
    Nothing's wrong. Just be proud of what we are instead of trying to dance around the subject.
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    We were the first to kill Ifrit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreamer View Post
    Probability doesn't work the way you seem to think it does.

    And even if it did, be happy. If this were Aion, if you failed to slot a materia it would also break all of the others currently socketed in that item.
    I didn't realize we were playing aion lol, did you lose all the upgrades plus the gear like ffxiv?
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  10. #50
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    Shin Xno
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    remember how relic ( FFXI) was looking impossible to almost everyone at start...
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