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    Fensfield's Avatar
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    Forra Descren
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    Balmung
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    Lancer Lv 70
    +4 Double Boned Claymore, anyone?

    Seriously it's just as I'd like it. But then, I'm from RO - and those really high failure rates on upgrade steps past the first one or two just make sense to me. Crafters can literally make rare items. I loved that idea in the first few pages, of crafters that get a max'd out piece of gear being able to tinker with the name.

    So.. yeah keep it as is, I say. It's one of the things I actually happen to like about the patch.
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    Last edited by Fensfield; 10-10-2011 at 08:18 AM.
    Roleplay Profile: http://ffxiv-roleplayers.com/showthread.php?tid=961&pid=15275#pid15275

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    Buddhsie Asura
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    Lancer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Medura View Post
    Ok, iv'e gotten the forbidden materia item, and ive added 1 materia, to add my second materia, it is a 26% chance of success 1/4. When adding my third, were down to 7% success rate! Meaning that to add 3 materia we will need 50 of the gear, 50 of the catalyst and 50 of the materia. This is about 3 full days of farming, for only 3 materia added. A bit much maybe? with 7 materias we will have to try about 300k times to get ONE gear with seven materia, meaning that in about 4-5 years we will have one person with a gear with 7 materia. Oh, and did i mention that this is level 1 materia? Level 4 materia is MUCH harder to make meld.
    "OMG I DISCOVER MATH"
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    Neptune Deepsea
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    It's retarded because after you put that much effort into 1 piece of gear will be it will be outdated in 3 months' time.
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    Kanikou Escaflowne
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neptune View Post
    It's retarded because after you put that much effort into 1 piece of gear will be it will be outdated in 3 months' time.
    Hmm..wasn't there a topic recently with people saying this is the exact system this game should have because other MMOs have it and it's a "good system"?
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    Aion Zwei
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    Gladiator Lv 54
    I hope they added a content that designed to defeat with min 3 materia..so the hardcore will have something to aim for...(not me of course!)
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    Aion Zwei - Masamune

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    Zavier Mhigo
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    Here's the materia system in a nut shell. You got three pieces on a gear piece, YOU ARE A GOD. Most people are okay with one, and only a small percentage of people will be risky enough to try two till the system is well known.
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    Oren Ishii
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Dungeon drops need to be worth getting as well. It's nice to have alternatives
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    Captain Lalafist
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    Odin
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    Arcanist Lv 82
    Be it skill or time required, you still won't be one of the cool guys.

    So it comes down to either "this is too hard QQ" (you're not skilled enough) or "this takes too long QQ" (you're not dedicated enough). Either way you don't have what it takes and are simply unable to deal with the fact.
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    not sure if it was mentioned but SE balanced the game around only 1 or 2 materia for the sole purpose of having a couple uber geared players on each server because of the super low success rate
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    15 abilities each? what is this... Kindergarten?
    A jack of all trades WHM... what is this 1989?

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    Raikki Zero
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    Ninja Lv 90
    Forbidden materia is a simple supply/demand situation. If the Tier 4 supply greatly exceeds the demands of people 1-slotting gear, then prices will probably/hopefully drop enough to enable gambling on 2 and 3-slotting it. I don't think anyone would go spend several mil on a materia to have a 7% chance of adding it. In the meantime I think most people will just multiple up on low tier materia and wait it out.

    I agree that it's a bit sad that the entire materia system is just a long grind against a random number generator. But since right now DoL/DoH and spiritbond farming are pretty much 0-skill activities, this was the easiest way to place limits on it. Hopefully they improve on the system, because there's a lot of room to make it better and more enjoyable.
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