Forbidden Materia

[Dragonheart]

"I don't have the skill and dedication it takes to attain wealth."

I said that i've the dedication to do harder skill based content, and you say that "I don't have the skill and dedication it takes to attain wealth." lol. Well it's right. I'd like to spent time fighting very hard bosses than spend 2 hours to buy materia/gear and then praying in 10 different languages =) ... And why didn't say anything except this (dungeon broken atm)? You maybe have some craft classes and u're ok with this system?

[Betelgeuzah]

I said that i've the dedication to do harder skill based content, and you say that "I don't have the skill and dedication it takes to attain wealth." lol. Well it's right. I'd like to spent time fighting very hard bosses than spend 2 hours to buy materia/gear and then praying in 10 different languages =) ... And why didn't say anything except this (dungeon broken atm)? You maybe have some craft classes and u're ok with this system?

I didn't say that the system is perfect. r/ex gear should be on the level of crafted gear enhanced with materia (1-2), or sometimes surpass it. Right now it's not the case.

If it doesn't take any skill and dedication to attain (enough) wealth, everyone would be able to do it. Yet the resources are limited, so that isn't practical. Some people are going to be better at it than others. Those people also don't need to "pray" for success. They will dedicate themselves to it and walk out with results. Maybe in short-term you can get lucky or unlucky, but the more you do it the less it is about short-term and more it is about long-term results (based on statistics).

It takes skill (and dedication) to become richer than others. It also takes skill (and dedication) to down hard bosses. In this game, becoming rich takes more of both.

[grandm]

I said that i've the dedication to do harder skill based content, and you say that "I don't have the skill and dedication it takes to attain wealth." lol. Well it's right. I'd like to spent time fighting very hard bosses than spend 2 hours to buy materia/gear and then praying in 10 different languages =) ... And why didn't say anything except this (dungeon broken atm)? You maybe have some craft classes and u're ok with this system?

why is it always DoM,DoW vs DoH.DoL. are ppl not able to do both?

[Madruk]

There's no real limit to resources which is why money is essentially worthless in this game. Good example is going out and mining till you hit fatigue now allows you to pump out 40-50 pieces cobalt of gear.

Sure the occasional retard will pay 3 mill for that tier 4 materia, but when you're attempting 2+ slot materia gear that's going to be few and far between. Anyone going for 2+ materia gear is doing it for themselves and not to make money.

[ZDamned]

I didn't read all the posts, but my thoughts are that materia is a stupid lottery... Just imagine the out come..

Marauder gets a high end crafted item, and slots it with 4 of the tier 4 strength materias.

In this scenario is that player even going to be challenged by anything in the game? He will probably hit things for insane damage, and kill equal level mobs in 1 hit. That sounds like he has soooooo much skill... I wish I had the should he had to get that item.

[Wynn]

I didn't read all the posts, but my thoughts are that materia is a stupid lottery... Just imagine the out come..

Marauder gets a high end crafted item, and slots it with 4 of the tier 4 strength materias.

In this scenario is that player even going to be challenged by anything in the game? He will probably hit things for insane damage, and kill equal level mobs in 1 hit. That sounds like he has soooooo much skill... I wish I had the should he had to get that item.

Good luck getting there though. Plus, I have a feeling the "soft cap" on stats is not gone, just has different numbers now.

[TheVedis]

Good luck getting there though. Plus, I have a feeling the "soft cap" on stats is not gone, just has different numbers now.

that and having 4 str in that item isnt gonna stop something from pounding him into the ground
i checked, 32 str in my gloves, gave me all of 5 more attack power! thats 5 added on to the few hundred i had, not much of a damage difference
im curious if attack power materia are a better idea at that point(unless of course str gives crit attack too which is another story altogether)


but the point is, people want to do everything easy, this isnt about fail or success rates, its about the fact things arent being handed to them on a silver platter and they may have to work at it
people wanna be lazy and they HATE being told that somthing may be difficult to obtain(especialy this difficult)

[Wynn]

that and having 4 str in that item isnt gonna stop something from pounding him into the ground
i checked, 32 str in my gloves, gave me all of 5 more attack power! thats 5 added on to the few hundred i had, not much of a damage difference
im curious if attack power materia are a better idea at that point(unless of course str gives crit attack too which is another story altogether)


but the point is, people want to do everything easy, this isnt about fail or success rates, its about the fact things arent being handed to them on a silver platter and they may have to work at it
people wanna be lazy and they HATE being told that somthing may be difficult to obtain(especialy this difficult)

Yep, pretty much on the bolded part.

I don't see what all the fuss is. A single high grade materia slotted into each piece makes a person quite strong indeed.

[TheVedis]

Yep, pretty much on the bolded part.

I don't see what all the fuss is. A single high grade materia slotted into each piece makes a person quite strong indeed.

the big deal is simple
people want to be able to easily put 5 materia into everything, because if they cant easily do something it shouldnt be in a game at all
they dont want people with more time to be rewarded over them

[ZDamned]

I totally feel you guys about the difficulty, but I think what the complaints are about is luck being so integral. Why not just require a huge time sink or money sink instead? The issue is the very real possibility never getting past 2 materia ever no matter how much time you spend, where as some lucky guy can feebly 5 slot his first try. Where was that guys commitment and skill or time or challenge?