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  1. #1
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    Bearforce's Avatar
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    Justin Fever
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    Excalibur
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    ^agreed...
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    Firon's Avatar
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    Firon Veleth
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    Excalibur
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    So people are complaing they can't be over powered for free yeah that makes sense lol... If they make the rates any higher might as well phase out all rare gear.
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    OptimalZedd's Avatar
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    Shin Xno
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    Ragnarok
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    3 materia is really viable, and with the time i think 4 is also

    This system is good because it will always clean the stack of underpriced gear , keep it high , so people can go farm to get their gear if they dont have money

    Middle Crafter will still have money to make and then continue their grind


    Just a question :

    If they kept the same pourcentage of success and only allow up to 3 materia by slot , who would complain about this system ?

    Everyone is bitching because they re frustrated they will never make it to the top

    I think its a good philosophy because we (i am also) are too obsessed by the TOP

    Paradoxaly, if you are the uber player ( hardcore) with other same people , then the game difficulty begin to fall down

    This system is pretty good, need some tweak of course, but let the player free.
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    Heller Bunsafyre
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    Excalibur
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    Carpenter Lv 50
    Spot on Zedd, three materia seems perfectly fine for the majority of us who either don't have time or endless pockets to shove more materia into our sockets.
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    Betelgeuzah's Avatar
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    Captain Lalafist
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    Odin
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    In an idea situation, I'd love to see a Materia System where each slot you gained to attach was the result of your Hard Work and Effort
    RNG has nothing to do with achieving the best results. Hard work is the only thing it takes. Luck plays no role.
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    Come'at'me Bro
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    Brynhildr
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    Quote Originally Posted by Betelgeuzah View Post
    RNG has nothing to do with achieving the best results. Hard work is the only thing it takes. Luck plays no role.
    As usual, you completely missed the mark on this one. Kiara is 100% correct. Person A spends hundreds of millions of Gil and hours before they get a 3rd piece attached while person B gets it in one shot. You don't call this luck??? There's always going to be some luck involved but there should be some way for skilled players to increase their chances through the use of their skill instead of just grinding out the gathering process and rolling the dice against the odds.
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    Shaenrael Calgarawyn
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    Lamia
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    Quote Originally Posted by DexteraDomini View Post
    As usual, you completely missed the mark on this one. Kiara is 100% correct. Person A spends hundreds of millions of Gil and hours before they get a 3rd piece attached while person B gets it in one shot. You don't call this luck??? There's always going to be some luck involved but there should be some way for skilled players to increase their chances through the use of their skill instead of just grinding out the gathering process and rolling the dice against the odds.
    This is a very important point, also. Though it seems to be somewhat reoccurring theme in XIV, that is that repetition and pure chance are favored highly over other factors.
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    Captain Lalafist
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    Quote Originally Posted by DexteraDomini View Post
    As usual, you completely missed the mark on this one. Kiara is 100% correct. Person A spends hundreds of millions of Gil and hours before they get a 3rd piece attached while person B gets it in one shot. You don't call this luck???
    "Achieving the best results" means working beyond short-term investments. Because the system is based on statistics, in the long-term those who dedicate themselves to it will inevitably get ahead of everyone else, regardless of whether someone had more "luck" than them in the short-term.

    Realizing and understanding it is a requirement for being at the top. Nobody will get there with "luck".
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  9. #9
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    Nefario Call
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    Cactuar
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    Alchemist Lv 80
    ^^ i do agree. I mean, it IS possible to create a few monsters in this game that are rarely if ever beaten. I point to the level of Absolute Virtue and upwards in FFXI. Or in the case of a lot of hard grinding, the relic weapons. I'm sure they'll have it here, but it would be great if there could be an item as rare as the relic weapon that works to make a 4th or 5th materia on ONE of the seven gear slots more manageable. It would be more interesting than just saying, go ahead and get 100,000 pieces of materia so you can grind breaking them for a few months until it succeeds.
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    ithink this is fair i dont want to see a bunch of gear clones i myselfe havnt had any matieria add but im only lvl 40 im waiting till im fifty why enhance gear im not gona be wareing in 10 lvls anyway
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