Angry Bards

[Egnasya]

Also, bard is NOT at all harder to play. It actually got A LOT easier to play thanks to less oGCD weaving and Iron Jaw. What's actually hard about stopping a cast to move or what else about 3.0 bard makes people say it suddenly takes skill to play vs. 2.0?

If you love the new bard I'm glad some people are having fun. However, I hope SE will meet both sides in the middle soon.

Don't think this is about Bard suddenly being much harder at all. Most players who complain are actually just alienated by getting converted into a caster at level 52 and I very well understand that. That isn't what they signed up for, that isn't what they played for 2 years straight during 2.xx. This isn't even faithful to the identity of the job, despite Square promising time and again they wouldn't do anything which results in players not recognizing their job anymore. Of course they would be mad. Wouldn't you be? Worse, if we're honest this new playstyle is just a carbon copy of MCH. Why have two physical range jobs that both get cast timers for most of their abilities in the end? Makes no sense.

The real problem now is that others like that new playstyle and would very much like to keep it, creating a rift in the community, resulting in point- and endless debates. Meanwhile the ones responsible for this mess, Square, can hardly make a move as one side would always get upset no matter what they did. And so it's highly likely that nothing will change even with upcoming major patches. Which causes additional frustration, needless to say. I understand why people are fuming left and right.

However, what I believe won't ever work is trying to force a change by starting an angry mob; the more chaotic this whole thing gets, the less likely Square will listen to anything their community has to say. It is, after all, their game - even after all the time, expenses and efforts players have invested into it, we can only try and put our faith into them, and it's vital that they still listen when we do.

[Amiaze]

Every single one of these threads is on the first page... Did we really need another one?

This. Joining your voices together as one is more constructive than a thousand little voices shouting from different directions. It's more annoying to see the same threads over and over again, and since they'll die so fast for obvious reasons, it gives a GM less time to actually respond to them.

[Warlyx]

[Dzique]

My guess is that, when theres really no respond from devs about Bard situation, flooding forum with new threads may finally catch some attention. Which naturally isn't a good thing. But no answer to 1420 posts long thread and to newly created 10+ threads aint better either.

[Yeldir]

Hear us! We want to do everything instantly, have total mobility, have no cons to the pros of our songs, and have our 1 button dps macros back!!!

[Velhart]

Your chances of them revamping BRD and not have them use WM is slim at best. Why not offer constructive criticism on how to make it better? Crazy idea, but I hear it works sometimes.

[jmdude]

They made an easy mode class require some thinking and planning and I don't think they're going to change that. The whole point of expansions is brand new ideas, there are few classes that feel exactly the same way they did in 2.0

[Darian]

What thinking and planning does 3.0 bard bring vs. 2.0? Job is exactly the same but hurts players for using movement now. As I said before it actually got easier to play bard with IJ and sadly it brings the same support as 2.0 but is considered a hybrid by SE now.

Main issue is the job gained nothing to grow core mechanics and lost a part of its identity in the process.

[jmdude]

Because before you could just run all over the place and not position yourself properly due to free movement but now you actually have to think and plan ahead.
This also made the job a lot more interesting imo

[Darian]

Sounds just like 2.0 bard and how you had to face mobs for AAs.
If SE wanted to make bard more interesting they did the exact opposite by making it into a BLM caster.

I'm still happy some people enjoy the changes but SE clearly had no time to actually work on bard and just slapped stuff from MCH without adjusting the tool kit. Also, songs have not improved at all yet SE says we are a hybrid. .. where's the do this to enhance this songs potency, lower cost, increase dmg, change effect, etc?
Sadly, bard is in need of serious love to get its identity back.