Angry Bards

[RiceisNice]

I saw a linked video in one of these threads that actually made me chuckle. I wish BLM were able to do this and not lose on any Fire4 cast...

People need to stop using that video as a comparison to mobility when it's rather moot in context. There's a difference between moving when you have to (which a BLM can still do by step-casting during the last .5 seconds) and moving when you don't need to, and all the video demonstrates is the latter which honestly means jack shite in a raid environment because telegraphed AoEs allow for stepping anyway.

Both jobs lose dps either way when a mechanic forces them to be on the move like Ravana Orbs or baiting puddles. I don't move that much in 2.0, and me and the BLM certainly don't move that much in Savage, and it certainly wasn't the case before in 2.x if casters were still on average doing more dps than BRDs even if you were to factor out requiem

[ColdestHeaven]

1000charsnip

BLM can step-cast, but can they do it easily and reliably in order to dodge without losing on any Fire4 cast (which sums up to a lot of their damage)? My answer is no. BRD cast time are rather short compared to BLM, you can use step-cast and you will basically always have enough time to dodge that one attack coming in the wrong moment. BLM casts are about double of that, and if you either delay your cast or interrupt it because you now have to dodge, you have to watch two timers laughing at you. The discussion was about how easy it is to recover to mechanics screwing you.
Also: that video is no mere "comparison" - it just shows you how a BRD can move basically anywhere in their rotation and still not suffer much in terms of lost uptime. Black mages, on the other hand, have stricter timings for that - unless they want to lose on "lots of easy damage". You have 30-25-20 seconds to cast two Fire and four Fire4, but that's not even half the issue, because astral fire wears off in about 3 seconds after the second Fire4. I am no BLM main, but from what I can tell from personal experience in both Minuet and level 60 BLM I wouldn't really consider BLM easier to manage in that sense. It's quite hectic, and not in the sense of "DPS efficiency", but class mechanics. BLM is way slower in recovering from a fuck-up, and being slow not only in Savage but other content too is not really good nor pleasant - I believe that much we can agree on.

[mdha02]

I was saying BLM rotation is harder than BRD. If you screw up on BRD it doesn't take as much effort to correct it like it does on BLM. If you screw up those big numbers you are saying are so easy to get, become smaller.

[Aiselia]

I was saying BLM rotation is harder than BRD.

The BLM rotation is incredibly simple. You said it was "way harder". It's not.

Boss mechanics aren't part of a rotation.

[Demi_God]

Hi, i208 BRD here, I am very unhappy with the bard changes and will definitely be playing something else next tier or very soon if changes are not made.

[mdha02]

Let me try this again. The BLM rotation is harder to pull off during a fight. If you screw up and lose Enochian, you have to revert to the 2.0 rotation unit it's off its CD. Which shouldn't be long, but we all know that seconds can feel like minutes during boss fights. BRDs don't have to worry about performing a certain rotation to keep WM up. It's up from the moment you put it up, until you take it down.

I would like to see the BRDs who are so unhappy post why they are so unhappy and their viable solution to these problems. Rather than them just saying. You broke my job, if you don't fix it I'm going to play another job. Or the ones that are threatening to quit. You want the cast time associated with WM to go away? Ok, but your probably going to loose your 30% damage buff.

[Aiselia]

I would like to see the BRDs who are so unhappy post why they are so unhappy and their viable solution to these problems.

There are threads upon threads filled with this. There is a 145 page thread filled with this.

Get reading.

[Valkyrie-Amber]

why is a non magic class that uses a physical bow suddenly like a caster class?

its so stupid bard is meant to be a support class with the ability to move and attack same time.

Blm smn and such they are casters not bards.

[BrokenFox]

why is a non magic class that uses a physical bow suddenly like a caster class?

its so stupid bard is meant to be a support class with the ability to move and attack same time.

Blm smn and such they are casters not bards.

Your character looks like Beyonce

[Valkyrie-Amber]

like wanders and like 15-20% dps behind drg? stupid allow us to move wanders and wont mind so much...