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    Doubling Up - Skills that can Macro together.

    A lot of us know that at times, fitting all your skills into the bar can be very difficult or even impossible; especially for controller players.

    Soooo I thought I'd make a post on skills that can be macro'd together so that you can use 1 Button for two skills without affecting TACTICAL play (i.e still maintaining the ability to pop tactical skills like B4B at the ideal moment during a fight - not just tacking it onto a rotation attack).

    Please share what you've found to be useful in helping save space on your hotbar.

    These are skills that are just combined one after the other in the macro no special timers or anything so that each skill can be used autonomously without affecting your play.


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    Tornado Kick + Form Shift
    Fists of Fire + Fists of Earth/Wind (choose one)
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    Last edited by Coltvoyance; 09-29-2015 at 08:28 AM.
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    I'm not DRG expert, but since there are alot of cooldowns that should be double popped on the GCD cooldown, especially in the initial rotation, it's really shifty to macro them at all. The server queue makes the rotation alot smoother if you keep most of them off a macro. I cant really speak for other DPS classes though. Also since DRG has no real stances or form shifts there isnt a whole lot there to macro either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by karateorangutang View Post
    I'm not DRG expert, but since there are alot of cooldowns that should be double popped on the GCD cooldown, especially in the initial rotation, it's really shifty to macro them at all. The server queue makes the rotation alot smoother of you keep most of them off a macro. I cant really speak for other DPS classes though.
    It's not necessarily for OGCD, but more skills that can be combined into one button without affecting each other. So in my example we have Tornado Kick + Form Shift.

    If I'm using Form Shift, It's because I dont have a target to attack, therefore, pairing Tornado Kick to that button is irrelevant because TK wont activate and If I'm activating TK its because im about to lose my target and therefore Form Shift doesnt matter.

    There's a similar mechanism with WHM. Practically any WHM Attack skill can be paired with Stoneskin II because it turns off in battle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coltvoyance View Post
    It's not necessarily for OGCD, but more skills that can be combined into one button without affecting each other. So in my example we have Form Shift and Tornado Kick.

    If I'm using Form Shift, It's because I dont have a target to attack, therefore, pairing Tornado Kick to that button is irrelevant because TK wont activate. and If I'm activating TK its because im about to lose my target and therefore Form Shift doesnt matter.
    I suppose, in theory, you could macro Doom spike and Ring of Thorns together since one works with a target and other doesn't. So something like

    /ac "Doom Spike" <t>
    /ac "Ring of Thorns"

    Not sure if it would skip the first line though if its being mashed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by karateorangutang View Post
    I suppose, in theory, you could macro Doom spike and Ring of Thorns together since one works with a target and other doesn't. So something like

    /ac "Doom Spike" <t>
    /ac "Ring of Thorns"

    Not sure if it would skip the first line though if its being mashed.
    That works perfectly, just tested it. doesnt even need <t>. if the're no target, only Ring of Thorns activates. If theres a target, only Doom Spike activates. it goes on the list =P
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    Macroing gcd skills makes it imposssible to queue them. Since using TK with perfect timing (aka at the latest possible moment but still early enough for it to fire off before mob dies/boss gets invincible) is already hard enough, it's a terrible idea to macro it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrCookTM View Post
    Macroing gcd skills makes it imposssible to queue them. Since using TK with perfect timing (aka at the latest possible moment but still early enough for it to fire off before mob dies/boss gets invincible) is already hard enough, it's a terrible idea to macro it.
    Except TK isnt tied to the global cooldown... and its First in the Macro chain so its not getting delayed by a non-activating skill.... if anything, only Form Shift would be affected, and you use that in down time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coltvoyance View Post
    Except TK isnt tied to the global cooldown... and its First in the Macro so its not getting delayed by another skill....
    You're right, it's not. I shall stand corrected.
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    Would there be a way to macro Tri-Disaster and Conflag together? If so, would be nice as I can move Garudias cone aoe to Conflags spot and use it more effectivly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NeoZanther View Post
    Would there be a way to macro Tri-Disaster and Conflag together? If so, would be nice as I can move Garudias cone aoe to Conflags spot and use it more effectivly.
    Give it a try, see how it works =P I cant test that one unfortunately cause my SMN is only 50, so I dun even have Tri-Disaster ;^_^
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